Former Atheist’s Near-Death Experience Reveals What Awaits Beyond the Veil with Anna Stone

There are moments in life that split the soul open like lightning cracks the sky—sudden, blinding, and never leaving the same shape behind. On today’s episode, we welcome Anna Stone, a former Department of Defense research scientist whose brush with death turned the cold machinery of science into a living, breathing, mystical revelation.

Before her near-death experience, Anna Stone walked the world like many of us do—rational, methodical, caught in the gears of provable data and equations. She spent her days in neural engineering labs dissecting the mysteries of the brain, wrapped in a black-and-white view of existence that left no room for magic, spirits, or divine intelligence. Yet life, in its infinite trickster wisdom, doesn’t always ask for permission before it pulls the curtain back on reality. What began as a dizzy spell from an undiagnosed ectopic pregnancy ended with Anna coding on a hospital bed, her consciousness slipping from her body with the clarity of a soul remembering it was never confined to skin and bone in the first place.

Floating above her body, Anna watched the hospital staff attempt to revive her. There was no fear, no sadness—just an objective awareness. She saw herself clearly and realized she didn’t care about the vessel she left behind. “Oh crap, I’m still me,” she thought, struck by the realization that death had not erased her essence or personality. Instead, it had stripped away the illusion that the physical form was all there was. The veil had lifted, and what lay beyond was vast, intelligent, and mysteriously familiar.

Transported without effort, Anna found herself simultaneously in multiple places—watching her daughter take a college exam hundreds of miles away, then observing her youngest playing in a hospital waiting room. Space and time collapsed like paper in her hands. She described a realm unlike anything she had ever conceived—a luminous, formless space without bodies, chairs, or faces, just an energetic download of memories and souls, all interconnected like threads in an eternal web.

Then came the moment of return. A being appeared—another version of Anna herself—offering nothing more than a simple, yet commanding “Nope.” The message was clear: she was not staying. Forced back into her body through the belly button (a symbolic reentry if ever there was one), she returned to the hospital with a gasp that startled the room. Six minutes had passed. Six minutes that demolished nearly four decades of disbelief.

“I just needed to know—did I hear that?” she asked the doctor, referring to a comment he made while she was clinically dead. He had no explanation for how she could have heard it, but she knew what she knew. And everything changed.

What followed was nothing short of rebirth. Anna could no longer drink alcohol—her body simply rejected it. She began experiencing spontaneous downloads of knowledge and insight, her scientific mind now married with a mystical heart. What once was rigid skepticism gave way to an inner knowing that couldn’t be tested in a lab but lived in the marrow of her being. She understood now that every soul is a drop in the sea of consciousness, each of us fragments of Source having a deeply human experience.

SPIRITUAL TAKEAWAYS

  1. You don’t cease to be you when you die. Personality, awareness, and even humor travel with the soul beyond the veil, reminding us that consciousness is not bound to the brain.

  2. There is no punishment awaiting us on the other side. Anna’s experience obliterated the religious guilt and fear of eternal damnation she had carried from childhood. Love—not judgment—awaits us.

  3. We are all threads in the same tapestry. No matter how different we appear, we originate from the same source and will one day return to it. Judgment fades when unity is understood.

In this profound conversation, we have Anna Stone, whose death birthed an entirely new way of being. She is no longer the scientist who needs to dissect spirit to believe in it—she is the bridge between quantum mechanics and the soul’s eternal dance. The near-death experience didn’t just give her a glimpse of the afterlife; it gave her permission to finally live.

Please enjoy my conversation with Anna Stone.

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Alex Ferrari 0:00
Tell me what your life was like before you died.

Anna Stone 0:08
I was a research scientist about 20 years on it, like on different contracts for Department of Defense, DARPA, UCLA, VA hospital, like all working in conjunction together, and I was in a neural engineering lab, and so I worked in with brain tissue. So I was a scientist, and I thought in very scientific black and white terms of how things are and how they aren't, but by what we can prove, you know, with scientific testing and instrumentation. So that was that, like, everything was black and white in my world. I grew up in a very, very religious, like, Baptist home. We couldn't, like, it was really super strict. Around age eight, I seen something that I didn't sit well well with me, how my family was reacting compared to what they were saying. And, like, didn't jive. That was start of my black sheep status. But then I had a period of, kind of my life falling apart, and was just a total loser. Like, at this point in my life, it's like, the worst iteration of me possible. I just completely lost my way as a total just a loser, like I just was, I just had no motivation, nothing. I had a new kid, like my daughter was, like, two, almost two at the time, and I was just being a totally waste of space. And I was feeling a little sick. I didn't feel so great. I was getting like, dizzy and stuff. And, you know, I thought I was having my cycle, like, a really long time. And I came out the day that this happened. I was like, I think I'm bleeding to death guys. And I was joking about it, but not and the next thing that I know, I'm in the hospital. Like, so I guess I fainted right then, I guess that's when I found out that had a blood transfusion thing happening, which was just terrifying to me, because the idea of that was just really gross and to me like someone else's blood in my body. And it didn't dawn on me what was happening, you know, other than that. And then I was told I had a ectopic pregnancy that had ruptured and caused internal bleeding, and I had lost like half of my blood, and they had to do this transfusion. And I was like, Oh, okay. And I thought to myself, like, I'm fine. But then as soon as I thought that it was like my body felt like I felt myself dying, like 100% like, I know for a fact that this feeling that came over me was death, and like, how it felt was so unmistakable and panic inducing, kind of, you know, something was very wrong, you know, like, very, very wrong. And I knew it. And then it was so intense, I felt like I was gonna literally explode. Like I felt like my there was so much tension building up from the inside out, like inside of me. Like, I felt like I was gonna pop, but like, it got to this point where it was, like, too much, and I just, I did pop, but like, only out of my body, and then I, like, so I'm, I was out, I'm looking at myself laying in the bed, and like, you know, I watched the next few minutes of them, you know, my me coding, and them trying to resuscitate me and stuff. Like, immediately I knew what happened. Like, it was weird. And that's actually that thought that I had, like, I had this one, like, profound, you know, thought of like, when I realized that I wasn't in my body anymore, and I'm looking at my body, and I had no emotional attachment to it in any way, shape or form. It was just a factual thing, like, that sucks. That was it. That's like, the only thing I said. And then at that point I was like, Oh crap, I'm still me. Like, my attitude still here, my sarcasm is still here, like, you know, like, interesting. It was just a very devoid of emotion, very detached from the human feelings and emotions that we're used to. And didn't have those. I realized it wasn't a big deal. But then I had this brief second of my kids, you know, and that the SEC, like, instant, instantaneous, like, as soon as I said my kids, I was immediately 210, miles away, where my daughter, Ashley, my oldest one, was in college taking a test, and I was in her classroom. I could see what she's wearing, her stressing out over there on her desk the time it was on the wall of the clock, you know, behind her in the night was immediately back at the hospital, looking at my little one who's in the waiting room playing Legos, whatever. And I was like, fine. And then I went back into the where I was with my body for a minute and just watched them stop working on me and give up on resuscitating me. And one of the guys, the younger technician, or whatever he was, he said, We're gonna stop now. Like she's, you know, she's only 30, whatever, you know, like you said, She's, like, only in her 30s or something. And the doctor had made this offhanded comment about, what do you expect? She's a former gun and I was not a former guy. That's not true. So that would make me mad, right? Like that normally would upset me that someone said that I wasn't upset at all. I was just like, necessary, like that was the thought that went through my head was, was that necessary? But it wasn't upset, and it wasn't even, like, angry. It was just facts. I'm there, am I looking at my body, and I'm like, standing to the right side of me, like, in the room, and so I'm looking to my right and I'm in the room. But if, and then I noticed that if I looked over to the left, I wasn't in the hospital anymore, somewhere else, like looking one way took me somewhere else, like it just was in this other place, and it was like, like a waiting it was, I don't want to say a waiting room, because that's like, the best I can do, though, with the language that I have, is it was like a room, and I knew it was somewhere I was supposed to be waiting for something to happen. There was no people. I didn't see any tunnel. There was no ghosts or spirits of dead relatives. I was just in this room. It was, like lit up from some unseen, like, source. I was just like a waiting room, like no chairs or anything. So just a space, you know, like a blank space, and, um, so I went there, and I didn't see anybody for a while, but I could feel stuff around me, like there was a lot of things going on, but I couldn't see any of it. It. Could feel it, though. Wow. And it was like, I was very aware that people, energy, souls, whatever, were all linked up together, like sharing data, like uploading their like, I feel like, if I had stay, you know, if I was staying, I would be linked up and, like, uploaded all my memories, or something for that collective kind of, that's kind of what it felt like. I couldn't, and I was at this point, I realized I don't have a body, like, for a while in the bed. It didn't dawn on me that, like, Hey, that was the body. So you don't have it now, you're just this form of ish. And it was huge. Like, we are human, we're very big, taking up tons, like, so much space. Then there is, like, an outline ish to you, right? There's an edge of your consciousness, but it's not definable, really, buy anything other than it was like, little pinpoints of light, I guess, like, it was weird. And I realized, Wait, how am I seeing like? I'm seeing 360 degrees so I can see behind me. And I'm like, Alright, so I don't have a head, because there's no bones in my head to block. Wait, there's no bone. I don't have a head. I have no eyes. So How the hell am I seeing like? So I was kind of a little bit perturbed, not perturbed, but just like, interesting. Hey, I guess I'll figure it out. And then all of a sudden there's a person standing in front of me that came out of literally nowhere, and it was a woman, and it was literally me, just another iteration of me. Standing in front of me looked a little different, though, like her face was a little different. Had worn different lines, like different expression lines, and things like that. Like we had different experiences, clearly, but it was me. And I just like, I guess I knew what was going on. I because I didn't even question it. And then I heard that word note, that's it, like, I heard nope, and like that. I just knew what that meant. It meant, no, you're going back. You know what's going on. And, like, and I looked back at my body, and I was like, how am I going to fit in there? I'm so huge. And then I went into the belly button. I got shoved, like, back through my navel. Why? I don't know, like, That's so weird to me. And that's when I saw a tunnel, like coming back in was when I saw a tunnel, and that hurt so much. It was very painful on the way back in, and that's what shot me up and brought me back. I was still hooked up to the machine, like they hadn't taken off the leads. Everybody's back was turned to me, like they were all filling out paperwork and stuff, and I just shot up so there was no, like, warning deeps let them know. Like I was coming back. I felt like, how I felt was, like, if someone had held my like, literally, it felt like, if that somebody had my head underwater and was holding me underwater, and until the second I couldn't, like, take it when I was gonna, you know, drown, like, inhale water like, I could not breathe because for six minutes I had no oxygen. So I was coming out of that and taking that first breath to, like, recuperate the oxygen I didn't I was deprived of for like, six minutes, so it was loud and shocking, and it was very disorienting for me. And then the jumping around in the room and loud audible gasps were also stressful as well. And then I looked at the doctor, and I was like, Did you as soon as I could catch my breath. I said, Did you say like, she used former junky and he went an anthem. He just looked at me like, you know, I'm like, did you say that? Like, did you say that about me? Like, and I think I'm pretty sure he thought I was trying to, like, get him in trouble, but I wasn't my goal. I just, I needed to know, did I actually hear that? Because upon coming back, it was very clear, like, Oh my Oh, my God, I just died. I knew what happened, and this can't be real, because I don't believe in this at all. And so he can't have said that. Like, this can't be right. So I'm gonna ask him, and then he's gonna tell me, No, I didn't say that. That's just your neurons mispowering or whatever. He apologized, and he still thought I was trying to get him in trouble. He didn't realize what he didn't get, what I was trying to do, like, at all. I just, I just need to know, if you said it, did I hear that? Like, did I hear it? And he's like, there's no way you could have heard that, like, you were clinically dead. It changed my entire life. Like, everything about it, my entire life is different now, like, I stopped, like, for instance, like I can't drink alcohol anymore, so I literally came back sober, like that six minutes cleared me about a drinking problem. I tried and I couldn't. My body basically wouldn't take it, and I just like, Fine, forget it. Now, I tried that before, and it didn't work out, you know, so this was weird, and the doctor's gonna tell me what they're like, just take it as a blessing. Like, at one point, I remember laying on the couch and just thinking, like, Girl, your life is a new kid. Like, what are you doing with yourself? Like, you just died. Like, it was really hard on me, like, because I it was, like, all the stuff I've been avoiding, like, all that hit me and like, I've got to take care of stuff. I can't do this anymore. Like, I've got to get my life together. And then it was like I died and I saw things like, my person, I existed past this. Like, I don't know what happens after six minutes. I can only say for six minutes, what happens, right? Like, I don't know. Maybe it all goes nothing. It goes away. I can't tell you, but those six minutes were like, it was not cool, like I was really upset about it because, and I still have a hard time with it, actually, because it racks my brain. Like it's just a lot. It's a lot. If I went 38-36 almost four decades of my life thinking one way, and to have that all shifted in six minutes is a lot to take in. It was like, almost like a file, like a zip drive or something, because it keeps, like things keep popping up in my mind now, but like, just out of nowhere, I'll just know something or have some like revelation about something. So I've had paranormal experiences my whole life, despite the fact that I didn't believe in any like, despite that, I was like, you know, nope, this doesn't exist. I had been tormented as a kid by like, the house we lived in was so haunted and scary, but I would convince myself it was my imagination, right? Because that's what I was told, that's science. So I would deny all of these things i. Experiences I had all the time and my family would also say, like, things like, don't, like, don't act that way. If you're saying something, like, telling somebody something was gonna happen before it did, like, you'd get in trouble. I'd get in trouble for that kind of stuff, you know, like, like, a bad thing. So I just would be like, it's not real. It's not I just, I brainwash myself to believe nothing existed now. I'm like, well, that's not true so and all the stuff they told me about tarot card and things like that, like, I was gonna go to hell and like, I left, the one thing that I was very grateful for was all my Christian guilt of, like, my terror of like being judged and like burning in hell for eternity, was completely it just completely murdered that day. Like, thank God. Like, it like for me anyway, can you believe what you want? But like, I know for me I'm good. So I was like, thank you. So I don't have any guilt about being someone that reads tarot cards. I don't have any guilt anymore about that, which is something that was ingrained into me, like, indoctrinated, like, it was wrong, it was bad, it was against God kind of stuff. So that helped a lot. That was a very big benefit for me, and I'm much more myself now. Like, who I am weirdo, like, how weird and strange I am, and I'm okay with that. Like, before, I was hiding it all the time because it was against God, well, that's the that's the fight I had in myself this whole time, and, like, that's why I was in such a bad way. Like, the denying, like, of myself and my true, like, authentic self was causing such inner turmoil, like within me that it was causing me to have addiction problems and depression and anxiety and things like that. And like, I didn't that would never cross my mind to put those things together. I was like, have this, you know, this dichotomy of like, this side and this side, and they don't mix together. They can't and now it's like, I'm integrating all of that together and doing research on this stuff like and in a scientific manner. So like, I've been able to now take the both sides of that I love about myself, like the psychic stuff, the understanding now of what's real, really on the other side, and be able to, like, marry those two with science. Like, in this it worked, because now quantum physics and quantum mechanics, like, it's become talk, we can talk about it now, like, and it's it's being supported in actual mainstream science, which is amazing. Um, one day, couple months later, you know, it was just popped into my head, like, why it was that way, and, like, why it was that and that it don't stress about it. It's you're fine because you knew you weren't staying you knew that that's why you weren't upset. You already knew this was planned. You had already planned this. This was an exit strategy for you when your life got too off the rails. For me, that's a big one now is, I've done a lot of things with my life that don't match each other, like, you know, different jobs that I've had because I wanted to, and that, like, for me continuing on that path of, like, once I get my interest bar that I go for it, and I find a way to get into that thing, and for however long that needs to happen, because at the end of the day, I don't want to be old and sitting there wishing I'd done things with my life, and I don't, can't do them now. So, like, none of that, like, I am all about getting experiences in now, and, like, not waiting for later and all. But then the big one on top of that is to make sure that I'm giving back to other people. So I'm gonna help, because that's my job, because that's that's why I was through that. If you just go through stuff in life and then you're just like, and when it's over, and you're like, whatever you know, and you just get to go about your business, well, happy for you. But like that is not my path. Like I have got to be there to help facilitate for other people in order for me to have what I consider to be a fulfilling life. And it's the like we're here experiencing humanity and human emotions as this fragmented one of 8 billion fragments of source. And it's like each individual drop of in of water, but like all those drops of water together form that sea of consciousness and understanding and like, that's what we are so to learn to love yourself despite your flaws, despite all your shortcomings, and to learn to like be nice and kind to the people around you despite their short shortcomings and their flaws, that's what it's about. We're not different, literally, we're not different at all. We are different on the outside to your eye, but not on the inside. Everybody's exactly the same. We all come from the same place. We're all going back to the same place. So y'all need to get it stop being all twisted about your differences and like, start looking at the similarities instead.

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