Whispers from the Other Side with Barbra Banner

Barbara Banner 0:00
Unfortunately, to have a connection, you need an open pathway. They don't want to tell you about the future anyway, because you could change your mind tomorrow and go a different route. When you find your purpose in life, you stop aging.

Alex Ferrari 0:16
You said people on the other side have jobs, yeah. Is there a union? No I'm joking.

I'd like to welcome to the show, Barbara Banner, how you doing Barbara?

Barbara Banner 0:35
I'm so happy to be here right now.

Alex Ferrari 0:37
Thank you so much for coming out the Next Level Soul Studios. I really appreciate it.

Barbara Banner 0:40
It's pretty amazing, and it's very impressive. So it's worth it's worth seeing it. Oh, congratulations to you for putting this all together.

Alex Ferrari 0:48
Thank you so much!

Barbara Banner 0:49
As well as you did.

Alex Ferrari 0:50
Yeah, well, I appreciate that. I am I have someone helping me from the other side, because I realized a long time ago that I am not running the ship. I just cut the wood and I carry the water.

Barbara Banner 1:01
Good way to think about it.

Alex Ferrari 1:03
So you have a very unique back story to to where you are now. So now you are a psychic medium, correct?

Barbara Banner 1:11
Little trance thrown in.

Alex Ferrari 1:12
Little trance, okay, but you didn't, weren't always like that. So what was your life like before this insanity came into your life?

Barbara Banner 1:20
Well, I can't say I'm one of those people who saw orbs when I was in my crib or anything like that. I didn't realize when I was about 13, I said to my friends, I think I'm a witch. I don't know, but there's certain things I had, you know, I just had really good intuition. And then the last other thing that made me realize I was interested is, I've always been interested in paranormal things, and I watched all the shows, and I read a book from Sylvia Brown, who's way before your time. Okay, so I was interested. Then, anyway, I always wanted to do, I always loved doing volunteer work. So I said, I want to get in there lift up my sleeves, you know, I don't want to just write a check. I want to get involved. So they're in front of me. We're looking for volunteers for a women's like, crisis hotline. And it was like a three month training. It was grilling on every aspect, grief, incest, you know, homelessness, everything. So it was wonderful. And I did that 14 years under the tutelage of wonderful psychologists and everything else. And then I said, Okay, I'm ready for something new. I'm always inventing myself, reinventing myself. And I said, Okay, er, at Cedars, the most, fastest, biggest hospital in the country that should give me. I'm an adrenaline junkie. I finally confessed, and there's no there's no groups for that, so I don't have to live with it. And I've been doing that for like, nine or 10 years. And then somebody told me about the la crisis response team, and we go to scenes the police are already there, where the family has come on the scene, and it's always the body is there. And we just try to help the family, you know, with with the process, what was going on? Yeah, because the police are too busy measuring and finding their job, doing their job, so and that's that's been pretty crazy and very rewarding. And people always say, Why do you do that? And I say, because I can sure, and it works for you. I'm I'm the calm person at the end of the phone when, you know, 911 like the 1911, operators. You know, someone calls up on my wife's on fire. What do I do? Well, what is the address and when? How did it start? You know, they're always calm.

Alex Ferrari 3:47
So, so when you're going through all of these, these different adventures in your life, were there hints of your psyche?

Barbara Banner 3:55
Not a clue.

Alex Ferrari 3:56
So during those kind of like, those not crime scenes, you didn't see someone hanging out.

Barbara Banner 4:01
No, I didn't see anybody hanging out. And even, even after I became a medium and was going out on calls, they said, you know, you're not going to do any of this stuff on the on the scene there. You know, this is not for that.

Alex Ferrari 4:16
So I heard, they heard they had heard already that you would

Barbara Banner 4:18
Well, they knew I was a medium, so yeah, they knew. And I said, I have no intention of that. I'm here to help the other people.

Alex Ferrari 4:25
So when was the first time you kind of came to grips with like, oh, wait a minute, I got something here.

Barbara Banner 4:30
Oh, I was. I had been going out for commercial, you know, things, and we have to do our own audition tapes, and I wanted to play it back before I sent it out, and there are orbs flying everywhere. There were not orbs flying when I was doing it, but the video was full of orbs. And I said, Oh my gosh. I told my husband, spirit is spirit wants to see me. I have to do something about that. And then. So it all came to me that everything that I've done, from crisis hotline to being in an ER were and then to being on the scene of deceased people, it was all a divine into, you know, interference to to get me to where I needed to be, which was a medium. I just looked up something, Suzanne geesman. She sounds credible. I'm going to go to her. So she was the first one I went to. Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 5:31
Suzanne's amazing. And that's when you started seeing So, so what did you do when you first started to did you do you hear,

Barbara Banner 5:39
I hear, see, feel, and sometimes, you know, and and can say their exact words, and, and they move me as well. You know, I'm in a session, and I'm doing the hula, and, you know,

Alex Ferrari 5:53
But let me so let me ask you, though, when you're when you're receiving this information, is your psychic? Because I always like to make this distinction between a psychic and a medium. From what I understand, you can be a psychic and not a medium, but you can't be a medium without being a psychic. Exactly. So your psychic abilities where you're hearing as traditionally, you hear the future. You hear someone's you know what you're what you see for them and so on. Is that coming where is that source coming from? Is that from your guides? Is it from their guides. Is it uncle Bob like, where is that information coming from?

Barbara Banner 6:25
It's coming from the clients, loved ones. You know, that's their it's a hard question to answer, because almost I would think that. I would think that every mediumship reading has a bit you can't really keep it out. You do feel a little different when you're doing a psychic reading, other than a mediumship reading. So I just take what comes I just say it. I trust whatever they're giving me, wherever it came from. You know, I'll take it and I just go with it. It's trust. It's just about trust. So I usually don't feel that it's a psychic reading. First of all, they don't want to give, they don't want to tell you about the future anyway, because you could change your mind tomorrow and go a different route. So I never tell if people want to know how's my future, I'll just let, I'll just let spirit act it out, you know, and get sort of show me symbolically, that it's going to be okay, that it's good, and you're, you're on the right road, and, you know, you've got a lot of people helping you.

Alex Ferrari 7:31
So that's kind of where you go with it. Yeah, have you ever, have you ever gotten information and said, I really shouldn't say that to them?

Barbara Banner 7:40
Yes, but it's not when you think, tell me, you may have to block this out. I don't know what the parameters are. I I, you know, a couple of years ago, that's the hardest thing for me, was learning to trust just whatever they do, whatever they tell you, just say it, because you can't make this stuff up. I had an older woman, and she wanted to see her mother. Okay, so I don't know if I should be saying this anyway. Don't say their names. No, there's no names. So we're, I'm talking, conversing with spirit, and all of a sudden, she shows me something, and I was in a group, and I froze, because there's no way I could say that and not feel it. So everyone in my my practice group was looking at me like, why are you just sitting there looking, do you know the Saturday Night Live skit

Alex Ferrari 8:45
Of course,

Barbara Banner 8:45
Okay, that's what I was getting for this grandmother, okay? And I, you know, I

Alex Ferrari 8:52
It's a great song. I remember

Barbara Banner 8:54
It was great. It's one of the top 10 skits. And so I literally just had to think that that spirit had a little, a little snafu in there, and they're giving me something that doesn't belong here. And I just winged it. And then afterwards, you know, when the guest sitter was gone, they said, What the heck did you see that you couldn't say it, and I told them, and they just weren't stitches.

Alex Ferrari 8:59
It's just hilarious. Did you like see Justin Timberlake?

Barbara Banner 9:27
Oh yeah, Sandberg, and they're dancing with it, with the boxes, another junk, and they lift it up, you know, I couldn't believe it.

Alex Ferrari 9:38
So what? Where did that? So did you ask? What the heck that was about?

Barbara Banner 9:42
No, I didn't actually. I just thought it was just a little glitch

Alex Ferrari 9:47
For a grandma, for a grandma,

Barbara Banner 9:49
For a grandma and an older woman. I thought this will not go over well and do no harm. That's what you do no harm. I thought it could just blow up the whole thing.

Alex Ferrari 9:59
Really. Me, I would have gone for it. Yeah, because you have to trust you have to,

Barbara Banner 10:04
I did, but I really it was so out of character for this little Granny, you know, like the Tweety Bird,

Alex Ferrari 10:12
She might be a freak behind the doors. You don't know,

Barbara Banner 10:14
You know, I just said to let it go. That's hilarious. And I do ask people is, is there anything, if I, you know, go into any direction that makes you uncomfortable, just let me know.

Alex Ferrari 10:26
But do you when you when you were getting this information? Is it coming? Do you hear? Do you hear it in your mind? See it. I hear it when you say, see, see it in your minds. Yeah, see it in my mind and your minds. So you see images coming in,

Barbara Banner 10:40
Yeah, I saw the skit on Saturday Night Live, so that in my head,

Alex Ferrari 10:43
And then, then as far as you hear it, you hear it in your mind. Okay, it's not like you're hearing someone like speaking auto audibly.

Barbara Banner 10:50
No, I just really hurt, saw and heard the whole thing, and I inside your mind, okay, in my mind. And then I said, Not, not. It's not happening, guys.

Alex Ferrari 10:57
Just so when you decided to come out of the psychic medium closet. What was it like for you? I always like asking that question, because it's not an easy path to walk, and it's getting easier now than it was five years ago. 10 years ago. Yeah, but what was it like for your family, your friends, your colleagues?

Barbara Banner 11:16
Well, I had to come out to my husband because I told I didn't even start by telling him I'm doing a mediumship thing. I said, I'm taking a communication class. Okay, that's benign. There's nothing wrong with that. And then when I started realizing, Hey, I'm really good at this, you know, I sat him down. I said, Look, I have to tell you something, and you can either be part of it, because there's some amazing things happening, or you can just say, No, I don't, I don't want to know anything. So he said, I'm in and he's, you know, I have to prove it more to him than somebody you know, for of course. So, yeah, so he gets it now, he gets it now. My mother, excuse. I My mother was 103 and a half. Oh, my and three and a half. You don't want to get that old, believe me.

Alex Ferrari 12:12
I mean, well, I mean, it depends on how you're holding up.

Barbara Banner 12:13
But, and so I went to her, because my father has been coming through. I said, Mom, I got to tell you something. I don't know how you're going to take it. I've been talking to dad. I'm a medium now, and I wanted to, and I, you know, I wanted to tell you, you know, I hope I don't trip you over to the other side with that kind of news with a heart attack. But she said, your grandmother used to drag me around to psychics, to mediums, to tea leaf readers to tarot card readers. When I was a kid. You know, everyone else is going to ballet class. I'm going to like Lucy, the medium, you know, from Russia. So I said, and she goes, and your grandmother had it too. I said, Mom, you're 103 and a half. When did you think you were going to tell me this? And I guess she wasn't,

Alex Ferrari 13:06
because back in the day, that was not something you talked about. No, that's in the back of the back of the house, in the extra spare bedroom. You hear from, oh, anti Auntie Joan, because

Barbara Banner 13:15
There's people lined up whether they just want some information from my grandmother. You know,

Alex Ferrari 13:20
It was quiet. It was not public. No,

Barbara Banner 13:23
When I was 16, my mother bought me for a birthday present, a Ouija board. And I looked at her and said, Why would you get me a Ouija board? And I said, you know, I need it. I need it. I need a dress and some nice heels. So let's, let's return that. And now I look back she I think she was divinely guided to pick that out so to see what happened, but I wasn't ready. And they say that until your soul is ready, it's not going to happen. It'll happen when it's supposed to

Alex Ferrari 13:56
But there is a lineage in your family of this.

Barbara Banner 13:59
And for all the people that channeled for me, they all say the same thing, that I've been doing this for like, 1000 years, and that's why I picked it up. And on my first practice reading, I said, you know, somebody named Thomas with a white dog, and they said, Yes. And I said, what? I couldn't believe it. I said, it's just beginner's luck. But the word got around and people were saying you should hang a shingle. This was seven months after my first class at which shingle, which I never even meditated before, that I didn't even, I didn't know how to meditate, so it happened really fast

Alex Ferrari 14:34
When you meditate. Does it like, how is it different for you than it would be for me in that sense? Like, do you see things differently? Do things messages start flying in at a deeper level because you're meditating.

Barbara Banner 14:44
No, sometimes I get woken up in the middle of the night by spirit. Sometimes, because they have something they need to tell me, that must be fun. Oh, and I either have to go drag myself into my office and get a pen and start writing. Down what I hear. Or sometimes I just go into the den and record it, do it. Just do it trance and record it and send it to the client. And it's, it's, it's very accurate. So it's like we all as people who can, who can have spiritual gifts. We all have the ability to do it. And when I'm meditating or trying to get into the mindset of of trance, the whole point is, is not using your head is is keeping your head empty, is just listening to nothing and and following, I do guided meditations and just following along. So there's no room for for spirit in there, for me, I if I'm in a meditating sense, I got, I got stuff to do. I got to get my head out of it.

Alex Ferrari 15:55
Do you? Do you put a close sign up for Spirit? Because I've heard that from psychics, like, like, there's, there's business hours.

Barbara Banner 16:02
I know some people do that, and I haven't. They haven't been too obtrusive, but, and I get some good stuff at 3am

Alex Ferrari 16:15
Yeah, it's a different well, you're also at a different place in your brain,

Barbara Banner 16:19
Exactly. It's much better. Trance is, like, you know, the stage right before you fall asleep. It's that nether world. That's what it is. And I want to stay in that, in that, oh, it's the best. It's the best

Alex Ferrari 16:36
Right before you go to sleep. Yeah. But I find it better when I'm just about to, like, I'm halfway to half asleep,

Barbara Banner 16:41
Yes, but your, your conscious, critical mind is not, is not working,

Alex Ferrari 16:43
Not really there. You're just feeling it, but you're not all in one, yeah, a foot in both Exactly. That's when messages come through, much easier. Communication, yes, much through, much easier. And that's what the goal is, of meditation, is to try to find that, that happy spot right to get to that place. I do it,

Barbara Banner 17:05
Yeah, it keeps changing. It keep like, I had a week of downloads, and I was just walking around, just vibrating, you know, I just and, and, and so as I progress, it's easier. They just pop in. I was going to visit a girlfriend who was my daughter's nanny, and her father had passed away, and I'd asked her if she wanted a reading, and she said, No, she wasn't ready. And he gave me, he showed me lined up flowers, beautiful flowers, lined up, and a vase, and then her putting it all together. So I didn't want to, you know, someone says I don't want to do it. I said, Have you been dealing with flowers and maybe making an arrangement? She goes, I just bought the flowers today, and I'm putting them together tomorrow for my son's birthday. So I said, Your father told me that. So now I said, when you're ready, and she and it really affected her beautifully. I mean,

Alex Ferrari 18:00
So you've mentioned trance a couple times. What do you mean exactly by trance? Like, I mean, I know what trance channel is.

Barbara Banner 18:06
Well, channeling and trance really is the same thing. Okay, it's, it's my higher self with my guides and and whoever else is coming. I just get myself into a mindset and I try to focus on something different, like, like, I'm looking at a picture on a wall, and I try to let them do their stuff without me getting involved, because it can only go haywire if my, if my mind gets involved. And I have to keep out of it. You have to keep your ego out. You have to keep everything out. You have to not think about it. And I just do a tape. I just tape myself, and all these messages are coming out, and my voice is, you know, I don't sound like Winston Churchill or anything, but it changes. It changes just the the, you know, the rhythm of it. And I get soft, and you can understand that I'm not really a soft person. So it and I just let it go

Alex Ferrari 19:02
Interesting and what it do, you know who's coming through? Or is it just a group?

Barbara Banner 19:07
It's usually my higher self or or the other spirit that came to me that night?

Alex Ferrari 19:13
Oh, so that's so but it's not like I always use this example, which is such a great example of of of psychic mediums work is Whoopi Goldberg and ghost, where the ghost, like, literally, the spirit, walked in and took completely over the body,

Barbara Banner 19:28
Completely over. No, no, that's right, but they do like I had a, I was doing a reading, and 2, people, she said, were very much the same. You have to give me something that that I can do. And I start going like this. And I said, I don't know, it looks like she's churning butter. And the woman just looked to me like I was nuts, and why am I here? I said, Look, I know they're not plunging a toilet, but I think they're churning butter. And she goes, yeah. You were right. So

Alex Ferrari 20:03
It's interesting,

Barbara Banner 20:04
But my hand just does that. I just go into it,

Alex Ferrari 20:08
But it's not being control. They're not controlling it, but they're influencing you a bit, I guess,

Barbara Banner 20:12
Right. I can't say they took over my whole body. And, you know, I don't know what's happening, but I'm mimicking, yeah, what they show me it's yeah,

Alex Ferrari 20:22
What is the most surprising session that when something came through, you're just like, besides the junk in the box, surprising? Oh, but something that was so one that was one that was surprising, funny and profound? Any of those three,

Barbara Banner 20:40
All right, Okay, can I have more than one?

Alex Ferrari 20:42
Absolutely.

Barbara Banner 20:44
I had a woman whose husband committed suicide, and she wanted a reading, and her daughter was there who was, you know, teenager, and everything I said was that's too broad. That's not specific enough, everything she asked me was specific. Was my nickname when I was six. And you know, what did I What would my pajamas look like yesterday? And it was really, it was really frustrating for me. You know, I was being graded on every single thing, and I knew I was not going on the podium to get a medal. So I ended it with her, and I just said, By the way, the symbol for your daughter is unicorns. And she said, we don't have any use with unicorns. That's crazy. So that was over. Thank God. A year later, I get an email, can you stop the unicorns? And then her husband came the next night, and he showed me something. He showed me a half a toasted bagel with the center, you know, it scooped out. And I, I got in touch with her, and I said he showed me the bagel and everything. And she said, every Jewish woman scoops out their bagel. That's not evidence, you know, that's nothing. Then she gets back to me a week later and said I was at my husband's parents house, and he said he invented a he invented a tool, and he has a prototype, and I should look at it and see if I knew what it was. She said, he brought out this thing. I said, I have no idea what it is. He said, It's a bagel scooper. I got goosebumps on that too. Wow. Okay, another one that was, oh, this is a funny one. I always like to have a have them ask a question to spirit. But I said, I don't want to know about it, but it has to be in a certain genre. Otherwise it'll, you know, it's too hard something that you know that they're around you, or the question you have. So she asked a question, and then I said, I see a boat on a lake, and that's just, it's just a vehicle to dress it up, and you're in the front, and your father, who was the spirit we were talking to, is in the back, and in the middle there's another guy, and your father's getting up, and he threw the guy overboard, and he said, I'm not picking him up. Leave him there. Let's go. I said to the client, I said, I got to ask you, what was the question? She said, Do you like my new boyfriend? I said, Well, we have our answer, don't we? Here's one that just gets to your heart. I had a woman, and during her question to me, I said, okay, and I didn't hear the question. I see a little boy riding on the back of a butterfly in heaven, and he's dive bombing and he's having the best time. And she just like broke down, and she said, When my son died, and he was young, maybe six or something, when my son died, I bought a book that I could read to his younger sister so she might understand about death and what's happening. And she said, and in that book is a picture of a little boy riding on a butterfly in heaven, and she sent me the picture so that one I never forget that. I never forget that.

Alex Ferrari 24:31
How do you deal with all of the psychological stuff that comes through with doing this kind of work? I mean, I have to imagine,

Barbara Banner 24:38
Well, I have a lot of training with with therapists and to be on the crisis response team you get, you know, yeah, experts in the field to train you on stuff. So I'm pretty chill. I'm pretty you know, I can, I just do what has to be done, and I don't get emotionally involved.

Alex Ferrari 24:58
Now, you mentioned you. Were, you were mentioning your higher self. Can you explain what that is to and you're, I mean, spirit guides. I think most people understand, but the higher self is kind of a little bit more enigmatic. What does that mean exactly?

Barbara Banner 25:12
We all have our higher self, you know, attached to us, I think. And you know, you might have a lot of people calling and say she doesn't know what she's talking about. So I'm just trying to, like, remember, we're attached to them, and they know everything about us. They're like the Akashic records. They of us. Yes, they, they help us keep ascending until we are our best selves. And they know everything. They're they're above spirits. I mean, they're above guides, yeah.

Alex Ferrari 25:42
So you're saying they? Is it?

Barbara Banner 25:45
No, it's, it's one entity, and it usually comes into my funnel when I'm channeling of just enormous light, just a powerful, energetic force, and that's what we want to that's where it all is. That's where the good stuff is. That's the safe that we try to open and get some of that stuff out and incorporate it into me. I think that's right. My trans, my trans mentor, Nico, the medium, I'll have to check with him. But it's, it's it's it has everything about us in our in our best form, in our most pure form, and they know everything.

Alex Ferrari 26:26
What would you tell somebody who's listening right now, who's just lost a loved one and is curious about, are they okay? Did they make it? Are they in the other place?

Barbara Banner 26:37
Every you know, it's it's funny, yesterday, I was doing a reading on someone and and I it was one of these that I wrote down, you know, at six o'clock in the morning. And I said, this is a weird reading. It's like listing 10-15 things that they're doing, from, you know, surfing to skateboarding to flying a kite, all this listing stuff, and I didn't understand what it why it came like that. But at the end, I said, Do you have any other questions? She said, You answered all of them. One of my main questions was, what are you doing? On the other side, are you having a life? Are you, you know, doing things you wanted to do that you couldn't do. So spirit is so smart, you just have to trust them. At the end, she goes, okay, okay. She said, Give me, is there one more message from my son? And this is one of the, one of the times that I think, should I really say this? It's not that bad. I said, Okay, who loves cottage cheese? And she just says, My husband and I eat cottage cheese every day. It's our favorite. It get protein. And I said, your son's telling you that you need to get some more. So she takes, takes the phone and goes to the refrigerator, opens it up. There's a big cottage cheese. She looks inside, she goes, I do need more. So I love little buttons on things like that. Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 28:12
That's super fun. So from your work, have you gotten a picture of what the other side is like,

Barbara Banner 28:21
I have to say, I hear so much about and I read so much about it. I I can only imagine what, oh, I know what I know from it is what spirit is showing me like they'll show me a somebody's son with their dog running through a beautiful field with the colors that you can't imagine. So what I get is from spirit. I didn't I have not had an nde, yeah, I haven't had

Alex Ferrari 28:54
So it's just basically images,

Barbara Banner 28:55
Images and feelings from the other side,

Alex Ferrari 28:57
From, from your work, how it's one thing, like, yeah, I want to talk to my son who's passed, or I want to talk to my uncle who's passed, or something like that, or mom or dad. How are the ancestors in our lineage guiding us? Or are they guiding us?

Barbara Banner 29:15
I have not had ancestors come through. I have, I'm after my last trip to Arthur Findlay College. They're going, it's a new it's a new age. The client is not the same, you know, old lady, you're gonna have people with, you know, with rings in their nose and tattoos all over their face. We've got to go. We've got to be ready for them. And so he suggested that the new thing is, don't just say, Okay, let's just see who comes. Okay. He says, let's go right there. Ask them. Give me a relationship and a name of somebody you want. And it's like they always come through. You're always there. They're just, well, you know, we keep telling them, your loved ones are always around you, because that's what they that's that's the way it is. So I know they're there whether they want to come through, but they all come through. And if it's somebody else, it's usually because they have a message that needs to be said right now, because they don't know how long it's going to go. And so I give that message, like, look, look up on your cousin, because she's not doing well. She's really in a bad place. And then I excuse that person. And then the other, you know, the one that she actually wants. I am certified with helping parents heal, and Mark Ireland's certified mediums, and I get so many people who've lost children. I mean, it's the worst, it's the hardest. I was called in about two years ago to to be at a meeting for the one of the groups, and after that, I said that changed my life that had such a profound impact on me of where I'm going and what what I can do. So I can't I can't bring their loved ones back, but I can bring them closer, and that's what I try to do. I try to make them understand that they're around you? And usually, usually a lot. So many people say I don't feel them. I haven't felt them for two months or three months. You keep telling me he's around, okay, if he's really around, he will know what Netflix show i i binge watched over the summer, right? So I look at her husband, who's on the other side, and I said, outlander. She said, That's it. I almost fell off the chair. I can't even believe it. It's just so everything is so amazing that we hear and see and and it's just

Alex Ferrari 32:02
For people who are I feel like a lot of these, these abilities are coming out more and more nowadays. In this people can talk about it. Yeah, they definitely can talk about it. And, but the this shift in consciousness that humanity is going through, these things are coming up. We are all capable of all this. Everybody, everyone's gift. It's not special gift. Some are. It's just kind of like we could all play basketball, but we're all not going to be. Michael Jordan, exactly. It's just different variations of it, but we all can do it in one way, shape or form. What would you say to someone who's starting to feel like they have some sort of gift, or they're starting to feel it? Maybe they're a little confused? You know, the trusting of the images, the trusting of the because that's the thing I get here the most. Like, is it me making this up

Barbara Banner 32:48
Every that is the for all new mediums, I'm sure. And it took me several years, you know, to to just say, I'm just gonna say it. I say, if you feel like you are meant to do this, or you want to just explore it. Take a class. Take one of Suzanne Giesemann, no, she's wonderful beginning classes. It's, you know, you don't even have to know how to meditate, but she will tell you better meditate every day, or you're not going to come back. That's what I say. Try it. Try it. You'll know if, if you feel, if you feel it in you, that it's that it's there and it wants to come out and help people. It's about surface

Alex Ferrari 33:30
I went through. I've had a couple of sessions with people who have guided me not to do psychic or channeling or anything like that, but guided me through like, either not past life regression, but like a friend of mine, Richard Martini was on the show, and he guided me to my council. He takes people to their council, to to speak to their council, and he goes, I could do with anybody. And I'm like, All right, do it with me. And we had a session. And as I'm going through it, these things start popping into my head. I'm like, but am I making this stuff up? Like, am I making it up? So it was very difficult for me to just accept, like, right? He's like, Okay, where are you? I'm like, Well, I'm in this cave. I'm like, okay, who's there? I'm like, Robin Williams. She showed up. He's like, okay, Robin's gonna guide you. Cool. And then he brings him in, brings him, and then I go to my council, and I'm sitting there, and I see this one person and this other these, these, these entities there, these spirits are there. And I'm like, and then what do they say? I'm like, Oh, this, this. And then I go to this one, and he's like, this, guess, like sharp things all around him. He looks very intimidating. And he goes, Well, that's your that's your war spirit guy, like he tells you to how to deal with aggression and how to be proactive and all this stuff. And I go, and I go ask him if he's ever been incarnated. And I asked him, and I got this message. He goes, I would never, I would never disrespect my soul in that manner to come down to earth. And I was like, oh. I was like, wow, and, and, but I all this stuff. I'm like, Did I make

Barbara Banner 35:07
You didn't. You didn't. And that's and I tell, I tell clients that as well. I said, Trust if you think it's them, it's them, because you have to be open to accepting it, just surrendering and they're always around you. They're coming through when they can and how they can, and just accept it. You'll feel a lot better than worry that. Well, maybe it's my mind. Maybe, you know, I imagined it. Well, we all imagine everything in our minds, so that's where it comes through. So you just kind of have to, just you have to. And it's a learning experience, because whenever you I tell us, also tell people, Look, you want to know they're around. I want you to think of a sign or a symbol in your head, and it's the first thing that comes in. Don't just, don't just stop there, because with three seconds comes your critical mind will take over, and you'll say, Oh, I could do better than that, or whatever I said, just the first thing and ask your son to show it to you in the next, you know, three or four days. And they mostly always do and crazy things. I just got an email from somebody I had I did the I did the symbol, and it was a red elephant. And I'm walking through goodwill, and I look over and there is a stuffed red elephant there. Now I've never seen a red elephant anywhere so and she's just it made her believe, and people need to believe. And so some of those little things that come up, like the cottage cheese or, you know, or Outlander, make them understand that they're they're really there. They may not be the same, but they're there. And you can talk to them, and you can love them, and you can reminisce and ask them to get in the car with you and sit shotgun like they used to and and

Alex Ferrari 37:05
One thing I I was gonna ask you a question in regards to like, messages from loved ones on the other side, how do they connect with you? And I find, through a lot of experience of my own and speaking to everyone I've spoken to, is that, you know, when people have lost somebody and they are desperate to connect with that lost one, we, I think we've all, especially of a certain age, can understand right losing people. We've all lost somebody in one way, shape or form, and sometimes there is the red elephant, but sometimes they go, people go so far out that the like, there was a leaf that fell from the tree, and that was Bob talking to me, and I feel like saying, or it could have just been a tree,

Barbara Banner 37:55
And a little wind came and it was ready to go anyway.

Alex Ferrari 37:59
So a lot of people, I find, look for signs when they're not there, the red elephant, the Outlander, the cottage cheese. That's very, very different. But I'm talking like I think a lot of people might look into something and read into things that might not be there, and that's where it kind of gets a little muddy

Barbara Banner 38:16
There can and I would feel the same way too. There's got to be a sense of desperation to to feel them. That the grief is so is so deep that they're unfortunately, to have a connection, you need an open pathway, and that means raising your vibration. And when you're in that kind of, when you are, it's like, it's like, spirit has to walk through cement, right? You can't. It's just too hard, and you just gonna have to go through it. There's just, it's, there's, you can't fly above it like a helicopter and get away with not having any traffic unless you're, you know, Elon Musk.

Alex Ferrari 39:01
Yeah, but there's a lot of it's very well, this reality is extremely dense, so anything that we do is slow, very slow. We're on the other side to my understanding, it's instant, right? You just think, and it's what a Ferrari, okay, yeah. And I want to put that Ferrari in a butterfly and fly around. Okay, cool. And it can happen. I always, I always love that movie, what dreams may come, because I was one of the things that they said when he was on the others, when Robin was on the other side, he's like, we haven't there's enough space here for everyone to have their own heaven. And just think about, isn't that a beautiful it's a great line, and it goes, and anything you want. Just think about it. And it's there. And it was that, it was that instant, so that one of the one of the things that they got really right in that movie, but it was just, it was, I just wanted to kind of bring that up, because a lot of people do look for things that are not there when they're that desperate, and a lot of people listening to this might be in that space. So I think it's a great piece. Of advice. They're like, if you're in that desperate energy, it's like when you're dating, when you're desperate, nobody wants to be near you. Exactly. That's what I tell my daughter. That's why you that's why you see the ugly dude in the corner picking up a bunch of, you know, beautiful women, because he's confident and he's just like, whatever man, right? And that he doesn't have that desperate, desperate energy. So same thing goes with

Barbara Banner 40:21
But I can't It's nobody's fault. It's how you feel is how you feel. I work on it. You have to work on it. I say spirit wants nothing more than for you to be happy and joyous again and have the best possible life. That's what they're most when they first transition and they're back. That's a lot of people feel them when they're just gone because they're they just don't want to, they just want to make sure you're okay. That's all they think about is, are you okay? Is my family okay? Are they going to be okay? Fine. They're fine. They're perfectly they're in the Ferrari, they're in a mansion. They're good, and they've got so many people around them that love them and support them, and so many things to do. So it's, it's, it's tough. I actually haven't come across somebody who who responded like that. Well, there was a leaf, you know, on the ground that was after a windstorm, but I knew that leaf was for me. I haven't gotten that. I have my I have the opposite problem, where people say I haven't had any signs. I There's no signs, and then spirit will show me a light switch going up and down. I said, You've had some dimming lights. Or she goes, Yeah, but, and I said, she said they were all dimming. And then I called, I called in an electrician to change all the wiring and everything. And then after he left, it was still happening. I said, don't spend money on an electrician. Anybody? Okay, they're they're trying to communicate with you. They're trying to show you they're around so

Alex Ferrari 42:11
And how do they like? What are some examples of that's the the light switch is a pretty like a pretty abrupt one, if you will, or intense one. But is it like the songs that come on the radio, yes, yes, yes, the show that pops on TV,

Barbara Banner 42:24
Yes, I say, if you I say, you must be hearing some music on the radio that your son liked or daughter liked. She goes Yes, yes, and I think it is from them. I said, when you get home, print out the lyrics, because there's a message for you in there. Okay, and that, you know, they have to do a little work too. Cheryl has the gematria, which is amazing for her. It works great, and it works great for a lot of people, but it's, you have to really get into it and learn about it, if you like, numbers that might be for you. And there's, I just they, they give me things. Oh, I get a I get a bunch of this. I said, there's a little bird, and he's going to come really close to you, and he's going to stare you down, and you're going to feel like there's, this is not normal. It's a bird, and we're having a staring contest. And I said, that's him. Does that make any sense to you? She goes, that happened two days ago. I said, Who blinked first? So things that are specific like that, and they understand. And finding a coin, my friends lost their house in the Pacific Palisades fire. They had nothing and and I said to her, because I I put the hazmat suit on and I went with her daughter to dig and see what. I said, Okay, did you just found a coin, a silver coin, like a quarter? She said, Yes, yesterday I was cleaning the guest room and there was a quarter on the floor, and I don't know how it got there. I said, that's your mother letting you know she's around, and her picking the quarter. I later found out is that her daughter and son as a gift grandmother would give them every year was a brand new quarter that just got minted. So it made three people, four people, her husband too. So happy to know, because she was worried, are they going to follow me to the new house that I'm renting? I said, yeah, they're going with you. They don't care about the house.

Alex Ferrari 44:40
That's beautiful. That's beautiful. So with with the work that you're doing, have you had a picture of what actually happens to a soul when they pass, like the process,

Barbara Banner 44:53
I get different processes, everybody. I some, some guys, you know, I. I say, well, he went, he shot up like a rocket. He it was so fast for him, okay? And then I always see the same thing, that the loved ones just enveloped them in a cocoon of love, love and hugging and, and it's okay, and, and, and then I will get these beautiful twisting, going around so softly, just floating up up there, and yeah, and I get a lot of hands reaching down, and usually that has another meaning, like he wouldn't let me he would. He didn't want me to let go of his hand when he was in bed at the last at the end, he just, I had to hold his hand the whole time, and he just was squeezing it. So there's spirit throws in little things that, as we say them, we don't know what the real meaning is, but I find in my readings that things come around full circle. They may drop a bomb, and then by the time that little puzzle piece goes right in,

Alex Ferrari 46:06
Do you see it? Have you seen animals on the other side?

Barbara Banner 46:08
I see dogs and cats. I haven't seen any leopards or anything. Horses or no, oh, well, the horses. A lot of people ride horses, so those come around. Yeah. So I see animals, but I'm not an animal communicator, so I can't tell you, you know, why rover like to, you know, pee in that corner. But for the loved ones, because a lot of love, oh, they want their dogs. Their pets are there, yeah, yeah, their pets are there, in there. I think I got a lizard too. I said there's a lizard just, you know, hanging around here, yeah, that he had, he had reptiles.

Alex Ferrari 46:44
So have you there's obviously one of the biggest fears many people have, especially those of the Catholic and Christian perspective, perspective, is this concept of hell, the hellish thing we're all going to be damned all this. You and I are obviously going to hell because we're heretics, obviously, so just having this conversation. But have you experienced from the other side anything like that, any any chatter on the radio?

Barbara Banner 47:14
I have heard that people who do really bad things, you know, like Hitler or Jeffrey Dahmer, kind of people that they get, they all go up, but they sort of get sidelined to the side and get therapy, and they they're worked with. They don't let them into the general population. No Gen pop, no Gen pop, no. There it's they're in solitary and and that's where that they try to get, you know, healed and and understand. So they get special treatment, but not in a good way. They're not giving them. What do you want for your last meal you know?

Alex Ferrari 47:53
It's, no it's, it's, it's an, it's almost kind of like, from what I understand, a loving kind of process. So let me ask you, from your experience as well, why do you think that souls do come down here and go off the rails? Because I think I do truly believe that everyone is all babies are born with love in their heart and they're good. And somewhere along the line, people kind of skew off, whether that be through nature, nurture, experiences, trauma, whatever it is, and they skew off to be and they start going down paths that they should have been going down. Why do you think a soul would choose to come down here and do kind of rough stuff, dramatic stuff, to people?

Barbara Banner 48:35
That's a good question. I don't think that anybody's got murder in their soul contract mayhem. But we do have free will, and the trauma, I find so much trauma, trickles down into the next generation. It really does. You can't escape it. So if you've got somebody who's, you know, a mass murderer in your family's line, not in my line, yes, in your line. And there was, you know, you're the great grandson of Attila the Hun, that you may have some dark thoughts, just like if there's a suicide in your family, that sometimes it can, you know, it could be maybe two people. So I just feel that free will, if they just may be deviants. I don't think these sign up to kill people, right?

Alex Ferrari 49:29
It doesn't make sense. No, it doesn't, but

Barbara Banner 49:29
At least from our perspective, it doesn't. But we're all susceptible to, you know, video games are making kids violent and and things that we see and that are in the news, you know, gives people ideas.

Alex Ferrari 49:46
It's interesting. It's an interesting. Philosophical question. It is, you said, soul contract. Can you explain to people what that is?

Barbara Banner 49:54
Well, before we come down, we number one, we pick our own parents and, well, that's a. Big one. That is a big one. We do.

Alex Ferrari 50:02
I tell my kids all the time, like, you chose me exactly, not choose Yes, chose him. You chose me and mom,

Barbara Banner 50:09
And that's right, and they better get used to it

Alex Ferrari 50:11
Exactly. And then when they argue with each other, I go, you guys chose each other exactly. They're like, No. I'm like, nope, yep, you did.

Barbara Banner 50:18
And if you don't work it out in this life, you guys are coming back into another life, and one of you may be the parent. Okay, they swap things, and then you're really gonna wish you would have done better. On this side, we get to pick what we want to do or what we need to work on. Karmically, yeah, they say, don't say karma anymore. So I don't I was gonna say karma. What are they gonna do to me?

Alex Ferrari 50:44
Who says not to say karma anymore?

Barbara Banner 50:45
I that was some of the chatter I got that they're calling it something else,

Alex Ferrari 50:50
Who is in here or on the other side?

Barbara Banner 50:52
In the other side, oh no, no, not on the other side here in the you know, like some teacher or some

Alex Ferrari 50:59
Around for 6000 10,000 years,

Barbara Banner 51:01
Some podcast, I don't know

Alex Ferrari 51:03
You never can listen to. Don't trust anything you hear. A podcast for God's sakes a bunch of lose.

Barbara Banner 51:07
Okay, so working off karma, learning lessons, sure, learning lessons in this life, on how to be charitable and think of others and and when, because on the other side, it's all about service. So do yourself a favor. Start volunteering and helping other people that are going to have a much smoother ride on the other side. And maybe you don't have to come back.

Alex Ferrari 51:30
Is it if, is it a fixed contract, or is it a loosey goosey contract? Meaning, like there's points of things big, big brush strokes that you need to hit, but how you get to those brush strokes are really up to you.

Barbara Banner 51:42
I don't know that answer. I have not been all I know is what, what I've been told, or what I read, oh, we had a guest. I saw somebody that actually remembers his birth and and trying out a soul contract, likes, like spirits saying, you really want to, you know, be Evil Knievel, you know it.

And gonna be painful,

Yeah. And then they let you experience what it's like to do that, and you can change your mind and say, No, I don't want to jump over the Grand Canyon.

Alex Ferrari 52:18
Kind of like a simulation.

Barbara Banner 52:19
Yes, it's a simulation. So you have chance to understand, if you think you can do it interesting. You've probably had them on your show.

Alex Ferrari 52:29
I haven't heard that one before. That's a new one

Barbara Banner 52:32
That was for me. That was like, that was one of the people in advancing away.

Alex Ferrari 52:36
It makes it makes it makes sense. Because if, like, let's say, like, oh, I want to be rich and famous. Like, are you sure you want to be rich? Like, it's me, it sounds cool, but here, this is what it's really going to be like. And then you go, Oh, maybe I don't want to do that this life. Maybe I'll wait a couple lives. I'm not ready for that yet. Let me just do, you know, be an accountant, right? Have a have a lovely family. Maybe I want to travel this, this, this lifetime. Maybe I want to have a lot of kids in this lifetime, or something along those lines.

Barbara Banner 53:03
You know, you can't only just pick from the fun side. You got to go to the work on whatever your problem is. If you never gave to somebody else, or never worked in a soup kitchen or or did something like that to better others, you're going to probably be doing a lot of that in this

Alex Ferrari 53:19
Right! And that's when you can, that's when you can say, like, you know, I think I need to learn about about empathy. So I'm going to be born into these fam, this family that's not empathetic at all, and I got to learn, because they're going to teach me these, these things. And like, you know, you go into hard situations. Yes, yeah. Because, look, the idea is like, Look, you could be born in the United States. You could be born in Somalia. You could be born in right, and Russia and in Siberia. Like, there's 1000 million different places and situations that this planet offers, also and economically, social, the society, religion, 1000 different options, millions of different options. So if you're coming in, in that situation, it was a choice to come in that life, and as a man, as a woman,

Barbara Banner 54:08
Right! So the the people who are sewage workers, you know, the they're gonna get a they're gonna get a lot of points for doing that, doing something, you know. So, yeah, there's it. Bet it got to look at the balance like, Okay, if I do that for like, 10 years, I don't have to work on whatever it is. So I think there's always a reason for everything. That's what I find now it's

Alex Ferrari 54:35
So you was mentioning karma, which is, we can't say but, but you were mentioning karma. One concept that I've heard of recently that I find fascinating is ancestral karma. You kind of touched, yes, these, this is stuff that that your ancestors in your line. And by the way, choosing a line to come in on is also another choice of like, okay, this family. Line, this blood line, if you will, has a lot of war in it, and I need to, I'm coming in to break that or a lot of abuse. Let's say, you know, uncle was a drunk, and dad was a drunk, and so and grandpa was a drunk, and they kept, I'm gonna stop the cycle. Yes, I'm coming in to break the cycle. Yes. And that's so can you explain a little bit about ancestral karma and how we deal with it.

Barbara Banner 55:22
Well, Brian Weiss his book, one life, many masters kind of thing. It says, like, just to show you that we are even now, I guess working off karma like this woman had shoulder problems all her life, all her life, his his patient, and through going through all the lives that that she was in in the past centuries, she came upon like a soldier, you know, wearing the red a British soldier, and he was stabbed in the shoulder. And everybody since then has had shoulder problems, but once she and Brian got to the meat of it and realized it was gone. So I have never been ancestrally healed. So I'm not an expert, but things, as I said, they trickle down to the next generation. And if, if you can be the good guy and come down to to the buck stops here, I'm not going to do this to my children. There's not going to be any abuse. You know, I may have to go through abuse to get to the point when I'm an adult to stop the abuse so they know what they're doing, but it's for the good. It's for the good and the they're gonna just take it.

Alex Ferrari 56:50
I had someone who was on the other day, and it was such a powerful conversation, because she was sex trafficked as a child by her family, and I asked her this very, very difficult question. I said, Why do you think this happened? Why does good things happen to bad bad things happen to good people, like, Why do you think you went through this? She has such a very profound answer. She's like, I needed to go through this because now I'm helping millions to save others, and if I hadn't gone through it, my light to help the world wouldn't have been here. And I was like, oh, that's heavy. She's the one that came up with this. Yeah, she came up with that. She's the one that popularized that. I just got chills all over me on that she's one of Gloria. She's wonderful. Such a brave, brave soul. And the biggest comment that she said, Oh God, it just I still, I tore up. I tore I was torn up by that episode was she's like most children who are, who are sex trafficked in the world, go to bed in their own bed at night. And that, really, that really, I was like, because when you think of that, you think of like, sound of freedom. You think of the taken, you know, like some right? You're taken somewhere and and you're on an island somewhere, right? We've heard that, but the concept of what she was talking about, no family members, yes, all that kind of stuff. So not to go down that road too far. But the question I asked you is, from your perspective, why does bad things happen to good people? Because a lot of people ask that question,

Barbara Banner 58:30
And I just say, because they signed up for it.

Alex Ferrari 58:35
And that's a that's a tough pill to swallow.

Barbara Banner 58:37
It is, it is a very tough pill. There was something that that this was going to work off or or help so many others that, you know, it's like, chose to come down, take it, take it for the gang who can't you're gonna save others. And I also hear that on the other side, we all have jobs, and let's say she the sex trafficker that that passed. She will, she will be helping other young girls or boys on the other side as they come to so they can, you know, feel comfortable with somebody who understands them. That's what I understand.

Alex Ferrari 59:15
So you said people on the other side have jobs? Yeah. Is there a union? No, I'm joking. What? What is that? I mean? Because in my head we the construct that we have in our head is like, okay, they get up in the morning, they put on a shoot. They go get into traffic. Toga, obviously, there's music everywhere, angels, cherubs around. What does that exactly mean, that everyone has a job, and what jobs are there and have been or in the other side,

Barbara Banner 59:42
Usually, okay, so go on the other side. We are expected to be of service. That's what all of this is about. For all of us, is learning to be of service to others, and that's where love comes in, and that you have no you. But you don't judge people on the other side, you understand that everybody is here for the same thing, to just ascend and just be the best soul you can be. And that's why we do what we do. And I, you know, I knew the little boy was was riding on a butterfly. You know, it's like, they show me they're like, they guide them in there. They they get, get with them, and they help them understand, more than just like meeting with your grandfather might do on the other side, that they've been through this, and it's going to be fine,

Alex Ferrari 1:00:38
Very, very cool. It's, interesting.

Barbara Banner 1:00:42
Now, there's no guarantee on what I said that it's accurate, but it's accurate in my mind. Okay, I trust, I trust

Alex Ferrari 1:00:49
That you've seen you've you've seen it, you've seen it. Oh, yes, absolutely. Now, I wanted to ask you about the the times that we're in right now, which are, seems to be a bit rocky, to say the least. I mean, you come from LA, literally living up in the hills. Yeah. So you've, I mean, I'm from, I lived in LA for many, many years. I knew a lot of people in those areas and all that stuff. I mean, 2025, is started off with a

Barbara Banner 1:01:19
I thought it's supposed to get, better. All the psychics, you know, all the predictors, are saying, 25 is gonna, is gonna, is the change is coming. The change is coming.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:28
Yeah, but change is not always pleasant. It's usually, I don't know about you, but anytime I've had major changes in my life, it hasn't been smooth sailing. Okay, you're right. It's generally always something challenging that takes you to another place. So I feel like humanity is being challenged in a very, very big way right now. I think probably since, I think 2012 was kind of like when it started, and it seems to be speeding up 2016 2020. Was this decade has been the craziest decade of my life so far. So what have you seen? What a Spirit told you about humanity's consciousness, where we're all kind of going.

Barbara Banner 1:02:06
We are all going and we'll, I think, I think we'll know that we got there when people understand that slaughtering other human beings in war doesn't get you anything, right? That war is, there was a, there was a movie called War Games, of course, okay, and that's what everybody should learn. You just keep killing everybody off. And what happens, you know? I mean, it's gone, everyone's gone. That there's got to be a better way than

Alex Ferrari 1:02:33
What we're doing right now. Yes. Well, it seems like on all fronts, that there, there, there needs to be change from economic to food to medical, to education to religion to all, every major parts of our lives. There seems to be a shift happening,

Barbara Banner 1:02:51
Right! But think how much better things would be if everybody, all of a sudden, had awareness, right? Everyone meditated? Yes, if everyone meditated. Oh, I'm so sorry I ran over your cat. You know, no problem. We'll get another, you know, it's, it's like everybody will just chill out. I do suffer from road rage sometimes, you know, I get really pissed off. But in general, everybody just needs to realize they're there for the same person, that the gardener has the same value as the tech mogul, that we're all doing the same thing, and by the grace of God, you are not digging that ditch, okay? And if you don't snap out of it and stop being so selfish your next life, you could be

Alex Ferrari 1:03:40
So has, has Spirit told you anything that you've seen that you kind of got like, oh, that's what's coming now,

Barbara Banner 1:03:46
I listen to Kryon and myself, you know,

Alex Ferrari 1:03:52
And but not much has come through spirit from you, at least. No, you don't even ask,

Barbara Banner 1:03:58
You know what? It's interesting. They're very evasive. When I do channeling, you know, it all sounds like very general most of the time, they'll come out with some really things that don't belong there, that are really cool. I was channeling somebody, and it was a little grandma, and all of a sudden she said, Yeah, and you could have the drumstick. And he the guy who was a total skeptic when we got there. He said, That's my grandfather. Used to save the drumstick for my grandfather. It's the only thing in the turkey that he wanted to eat during Thanksgiving. Okay, I get it now. Okay, so they give a lot of things that make sense. I want to say, instead of saying, Make, make it like that. It's a lot of times it's general, and a lot of times it it really resonates. And I do not remember what I say when I'm doing that. I remember a few words, maybe here or there, but I have to keep my mind out of the whole equation. Equation for it to be completely

Alex Ferrari 1:05:01
One thing I love to let people know, and because a lot of people have this illusion about psychic mediums or channels or people that do this kind of work, that they're enlightened beings, that because they are gifted, that they have been gifted with these powers, that they are enlightened and that they're above what we have to deal with here as human beings. And I was, you just said, I have road rage every once, that's when I triggered. I was like, oh, yeah, let everyone know. Can you explain to people like, that's your human beings, or just you and you're doing your own thing. Some might be more enlightened than others, but just because you have the gift doesn't even mean you're moral. I mean, there's a lot of people who use the gift that are not the right people,

Barbara Banner 1:05:41
Right, right! I mean, as you said before, everybody can do this, but it takes a lot of patience and a lot of practice. You're not going to take one class and all of a sudden, you know, know everything. It takes a long time, and you have to feel the need to do it. I felt I have to do this. This is I'm supposed to be doing this. I'm supposed to take this class.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:09
And that's how you go down.

Barbara Banner 1:06:11
That's yeah, and then, and then a lot of people who lost a child take a class or two, and they still can't do it, because it's first of all, if they're starting when they're in deep grief, they're not going to it's going to be really hard to assimilate all the things that you're going to learn. You have to want to do it.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:36
Have you ever gotten messages about your own life, your own future, your own people.

Barbara Banner 1:06:43
I've asked my father, or you know, or others up there, I said, when's mom going, Okay, can you just give me any there's things they cannot talk about, of course. So they've given me messages that I need to do something. They don't tell you to do it. They make it very soft and very suggestion you have a very toxic girlfriend who is not good for you. And it's, it's, it's lowering your vibration. It's, it's affecting you. So had to do something about it.

Alex Ferrari 1:07:25
It seems like it's, it's almost painful from the other side's point of view, to watch what we do. Oh, gosh, I can only imagine. I mean, because we're, I mean, this is a reality show for the universe. I mean, we are the reality show for the universe, I believe. But I imagine, like, just like a parent with a child and you see them making a mistake, you're just like, Oh, God, oh.

Barbara Banner 1:07:47
But you know what I think I've heard in this probably, from a human being, let them make their mistakes to learn, unless it's going to hurt them. If they want to go, Mom, I'm too dressed up. I'm not putting a sweater on. It's going to ruin the whole look. Let them go and come back, you know, blue. But if they're gonna say, Mom, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, you know, take the car and do a Thelma and Louise with, you know, Susie, and we're gonna see how it feels, then you have to stop them. So pick your battles with the teenagers. Tell me about it. Let them freeze. Let them freeze.

Alex Ferrari 1:08:26
I think that sometimes what you have to do, you just gotta let them they have to feel the pain.

Barbara Banner 1:08:32
And you know, I've never heard anybody who got sick from not wearing a sweater. They may have been uncomfortable, but I don't know if it, it translates into definitely getting ill,

Alex Ferrari 1:08:41
I think, I don't think ill, but if you're already on the edge right, and your body takes your resistances down, I think that's where it is. I don't think the actual cold gets you sick, just brings your system down. The right infection can get it? Yes, and I'm gonna ask you a few questions I ask all my guests, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

Barbara Banner 1:09:04
For me, it's, it's helping others heal. Is being, being a part of letting them see a little light, that there is going to be light, because there is and there's no right or wrong in grieving. It can take one person six months before they're dating again, and it can take somebody 10 years and they're still haven't moved forward. Now, therapists say if you're still 10 years out from your spouse passing, and you're still on the couch and haven't gotten your mail in 10 years, that's a problem. You there's more going on here, and you really should see somebody. So I for me, it's helping others. I've wanted to do it since I was a kid, and that makes me feel good, and I'm in a position where I can do that. And I love that.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:02
If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Barbara, what advice would you give her?

Barbara Banner 1:10:06
I am very grateful for the life I've had. I and I I don't see doing anything. I realize now looking back, that things that I screwed up on were turned out to be like the best thing that happened to me, because I learned a lesson, and I don't have to go through that again. I get some of my boyfriends have been, you know, unfortunate. Other than that, lessons. They were all lessons.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:37
We all have to kiss a few frogs. Yes. How do you define God or Source?

Barbara Banner 1:10:43
I do a little ritual when I start meditating, and I wrestle with my spirit animals a little and get that love vibration. There's nothing like dog love and wrestling around with them. And then I climb up and I give God a hug and just let him know. Oh, it's nice. Thank you for everything you're doing for me.

Alex Ferrari 1:11:07
What is love?

Barbara Banner 1:11:07
What is love? It is the highest vibration, the highest, high.

Alex Ferrari 1:11:14
If you could ask God or source one question, what would it be?

Barbara Banner 1:11:19
Why don't you give me these questions before I come Okay, ask them a question, how long before everybody is set straight and everyone understands that war is and help each other? That's what I want to know.

Alex Ferrari 1:11:34
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Barbara Banner 1:11:36
It's different for from everybody, and you got to find it. And James Van Praagh said, When you find your purpose in life, you stop aging. I'm 240 years old. Okay,

Alex Ferrari 1:11:49
Fair enough.

Barbara Banner 1:11:49
I'm going with what he said,

Alex Ferrari 1:11:51
Fair enough. Fair enough. And where can people find out more about you and the life and the work you're doing?

Barbara Banner 1:11:57
Well, you can Google me, Barbara Banner and my website bannermedium.com has a lot. It has a lot of little video clips to see what I do in a session and reviews and everything else.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:12
And do you have any parting messages for the audience?

Barbara Banner 1:12:15
If you've lost a child, look into helping parents heal. It's it's an amazing organization, and it's, I'm sure, saved the lives of a lot of parents as well.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:30
Barbara, thank you so much for being here.

Barbara Banner 1:12:31
This has been an it's been great. Thank you so much.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:35
Thank you so much for what you're doing and helping awaken the planet.

Barbara Banner 1:12:37
Okay, and I'll give you a reading someday too.

Alex Ferrari 1:12:40
Appreciate it.