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Oliver Niño 0:00
To me, when I look at humanity, it's interesting, because I think anything can change in the moment, because I've seen how fast things can change. Ultimately, the goal is your vibration becomes your protection. That's the gift you have got, the gift of hearing guidance that saved your life. Oh no, no, no, I'm not a psychic because it conflicted with the Catholic upbringing. And you can't be psychic and Catholic, because you're that evil, we could heal, we could make a decision. We can make a choice, right? And I've seen a lot more of that.
Alex Ferrari 0:29
I like to welcome to the show Oliver Niño, how you doing Oliver?
Oliver Niño 0:42
How you doing? Glad to be here.
Alex Ferrari 0:44
Thank you so much for coming on the show man, I'm excited. I'm excited to talk to you. Man, I haven't had anyone with you with your skill set and experience life experience on the show before. So about regarding energy work and spiritual activation, I want to dive into all that stuff. But before? Man, what was it like before you went into all of this? I mean, I'm assuming you weren't a small child going, you know, I'm gonna be a spiritual activator when I get older, or work with energy when I get older. At what point did this, this, this journey begin for you?
Oliver Niño 1:17
I never thought I would be here, because my background is entrepreneurship like, and I've been like a internet marketer, business owner, like, building companies, selling them, you know, for over 20 years now. And so to me, that's my first love, right? So the second love was just growth, personal development and finding something to better my life. And to me, energy healing was one of the things that, you know, I tried out, I've never heard of I had no context. Nothing was working at that time. And I'm like, Sure, let me try it out. And I'm very skeptical. Left Brain analytical, still am right now. And it was a one, it was a one thing that worked when everything else didn't work. So to me, it kind of was like, What is this? What? How come I've never heard of it, and how is it defying all the laws of how I think things should be and how fast things should happen, and what's possible and what's, what's what's not possible, right? So to me, my first introduction to it was because I wanted, at that time to I felt like I had a block when it came to growing one of my businesses, and I could not, for the life of me, figure out how to get through that experience and energy healing, and that took me to levels that I've never experienced. And I was like, okay, whatever this is, you know, I just got to learn more about it, because if it can do this in this amount of time, then what am I missing, right?
Alex Ferrari 2:38
So, when you, when you, when you kind of known in a certain space, in the entrepreneurial space and building businesses and things like that, when you started to come out as a quote, unquote, spiritual activator, How was that received by your colleagues, by your friends, by your family? I mean, I have to believe that that was like, dude, you've lost your mind that you are. You've gone completely woo, woo on me. How was that?
Oliver Niño 3:03
I was what I call a closet healer for over 10 years, right?
Alex Ferrari 3:07
Oh, wow!
Oliver Niño 3:07
For because, for me, I didn't want to risk it. I was like, I'm known in this community, like, I'm networking, I'm meeting I'm making friends, I'm meeting people, I'm doing business deals, right? And and to meet, back then it was law of attraction was not even the thing, right? So, like, so all this stuff was so new to I was feeling out people where they were, and seeing how open they were, seeing if they're using certain buzzwords and and then I would be like, hey, you know, on the side, I do this, you know, I did it for free back then, because I was just like, I was so, like, passionate about how it works, I would just be gifting sessions, and what would end up happening, somebody would try it, and they'd be blown away. Next thing, you know, they would refer a friend and their friend and friend. So that's kind of like the first 10,000 sessions were literally, you know, it was almost like a secret of like, Hey, do you know what Oliver does? And they're like, Yeah, do you know what Oliver really does? And it was like, became this, like, secret code. And people would, like, would kind of like, you know, know, it was a private thing, and it was just a wild time of, like, living, living a life as an entrepreneur, but hiding in the spiritual closet. Of, like, I don't want to really be judged, so I'm just going to do this under, under underground, in a way. And it was, it was very fascinating. And to me, it was one of when I look back, I was like, I can't believe I pulled that off.
Alex Ferrari 4:24
What exactly do you do? What exactly is the energy healing like? What are the things that you were giving all these sessions away for free? What were they?
Oliver Niño 4:31
Now, I do a lot of just training people how to do it, but back then, it was like, you know, I would meet people after I had this awakening. Have you ever been to Sedona before?
Alex Ferrari 4:43
No, but I've heard of it, of course. And it's very energetically charged,
Oliver Niño 4:47
Yeah. So I went there and I had this experience. I was on top of this vortex, right? And they and vortex are very popular in Sedona. They they studied it because it apparently has so much concentrated energy in a. It's deeply connected to the energy of the earth. And I thought it was Baloney, and I took a little, a little hike there with a with a one of the guides, and I sat there for 20-30, minutes, and it was the wildest thing. I was sitting down. And I would just like, have all these different shapes, you know, and images and things that were coming up and and I thought I was hallucinating, because when I opened my eyes, I was like, my gosh, I'm seeing all these, like, different, like, lights and shapes and things around people. So I lost, like, I'm definitely needing more water. It's the desert, it's Arizona. I'm seeing things so, and that went on for about a a good week of just like, I thought I was just crazy. Like, you know, seeing things, like meeting people and like, I'm like, How do I know this about them? So from that experience, that it kind of brought on in stages. But the first stage was that I would meet people, and I would just know what they were struggling with, or where they were blocked. Of like, okay, they have a block in their heart. Oh, they've got a block in their ear or whatever, right? So for me, I was able to know that they had stuff, and not necessarily know what to do with it, but just know something was up, right? And I was like, Okay, this that's weird. And then when it progressed, like, you know, I started like, feeling it within myself as well, and being able to, like, remove the energy blocks on myself. So I tried that for a bit. And I was like, Okay, I might just be making these up. So I was like, called Friends, family members. And I'm like, hey, I want to try something on you, right? So I started off with people that I that I trusted, of like, you know, it's gonna sound weird, but I want to try something on, yeah, you open your energy work. And I would do that, and they would be and people would be like, you know, telling me stuff about either their physically like, have physical relief and feel better, or emotional or nothing happened. But in that week, something crazy happened and was related to what we worked on. And I was like, there's something to it. So I started doing that for me at the beginning, to gather data that it worked. It wasn't just a fluke of, like, just me or somebody else. So that's for me. That's why, when I did the first 10,000 sessions, I was just mainly curious, of like, does this work? Will this work for everybody? How does this work? Does it work if somebody doesn't believe it, does it work better if somebody believes it, right? And to me, it was just my mind gathering data. Of like, oh, that's the pattern. That's how it works. Okay, they don't have to believe it, but if they're open to it, even if they're skeptical, it still works. You don't have to have belief, but you have to be open. And it taught me a lot about just how energy works, that it completely bypasses the mind. Like, like, to me, it's kind of like, it's very autonomic and automatic to where your mind doesn't have to, you know, really believe in it, because the way energy works is it works outside of the mind, whether or not you believe it. And then people, typically, when they see something amazing, they like, oh, I guess that works. And the mind eventually, kind of like, buys in, yeah, accept it. But it's not the first. It doesn't have to champion it from the beginning, you know.
Alex Ferrari 7:59
So explain to me, explain to me what you're talking about when it regards to energy. And energy blocks, for people who don't understand what flows through us, I mean, anyone who has ever heard of the term chi or ghee, the Chi energy you know that runs through us. And acupuncture talks about these energy, these energies that run through the body. Is that correct?
Oliver Niño 8:20
Yes. So the way I think about it is, like energy is like, we all, we all produce energy, all of us, right? And even, even, you know, what we call auric field, right? The, you know, scientists called the bio energetic field, so they're able to start, to start measuring things in this, in the spiritual community has known for a bit, right? So the way I look at it is, we produce energy. Our thoughts produce energy, our emotions produce energy, our decisions produce energy. Are, you know, they so they even have these machines. I'm here to biofeedback machines by chance.
Alex Ferrari 8:56
Oh, I've done one. I've done them, yeah, some biofeedback sessions. It's pretty mind blowing,
Oliver Niño 9:02
It is. And the thing is like, you know, and, and the thing with them is they are able to measure a lot of things. So they're able to measure emotions. And the way they're able to do it is they put people in the room and have them focus on like, feeling angry or feeling sad or feeling happy, and they measure the frequency, you know, variations of that emotion, and they're able to be like, okay, anger. Anger produces this much, or is, this is the frequency of anger. So they've done that with thoughts, with emotions. They've done that with a health a healthy liver, a sluggish liver, healthy cells, like, you know, so they've gone through through an enormous extent quantifying everything with energy. So to me, the way I look at it is we all produce energy, whether we like it or not, we all produce energy. So when you work on the energetic level, you can affect everything that has or produces energy, right? So to me. Like, a simple example would be like people that walk into a mall or a crowded area and they go from feeling calm and peaceful to all of a sudden overwhelmed or anxious or just kind of a little bit off, right? So you have those, and then you also have folks that are like, Okay, some random name or a person's face pops up in their mind. They're like, Why is this person name popping up? Next thing you know, they get a text, an email or a call, or they bump into them, right? I've seen that happen or situations where people are like, staring at the back of someone's head or whatever, or their back of their body, and the next thing, the person turns around like someone's looking at them. So to me, the way I've seen it is like energy, like affects everything, and it's this invisible communication that we have, that we do unconsciously, right? And and it's like oxygen, like the you don't see it, but it's, it's there, it's happening. It's it affects everything in life. And to me, it's been the most efficient way to to work on something, because if I'm working, let's say energy blocks. And the way energy blocks are, I look at them as we don't have them, you know. But then life happens, whether your environment affects you, a traumatic life event happens, you know, generationally or gestationally, something's passed down. Next thing you know, these blocks are formed that kind of throw you off how you're naturally supposed to flow and to be right, and now your body has to compensate for it, and you can't go manifest what you want, or you can't have the perfect health, or you can't have the abundance, because now it's having to deal with the blocks, and all your energy is going to these blocks that are in here. That's for me, I think they're stopping you.
Alex Ferrari 11:47
So what did that? So would be an example be if I have been told my entire life by my parents, let's say that making money is extremely hard, or rich people are evil, or these kind of ideas, if, on a subconscious level, it's in my in my psyche, would that block me from obtaining wealth if I truly wanted wealth or abundance in my life? Because you just have this kind of, this, this energy of this negative association with it, is that kind of what an energy block is?
Oliver Niño 12:20
It could be. It could to me, it could be, from everybody is it's different. So for some people, it's self talk and thoughts. It's the biggest because the thought produces the energy. And the energy is what, to me, attracts, attracts or repels things in life. So to me, it's like the thought produces energy, the emotions produce energy, your decisions produce energy, your intentions produce energy, and that energy is what's affecting your your life in the here and now, right? So to me, it's like, when you when you remove the energetic thing that holds it up, those thoughts aren't as powerful, right? So, but yes, I've seen it for sometimes it's people's thoughts, because they're like, shoot, if I make money now, then I might lose love and connection from mom and dad, because that's what they don't like, and I don't want to lose love and connection. So subconsciously, I'm going to keep it at this level. Or if they think that money takes a while, or you have to work hard, then I'm going to take a while and I'm gonna work hard, and I'm gonna match their rules perfectly, unconsciously, because love and connection to me is more important than not that, you know, than than everything else, right? And then you have people that have it based on, like, when I grew up, like, my dad went through bankruptcy and lost everything, right? So now for me, that's more of an experience of like, okay, that's my relationship with money. You have it, then you lose it, right? So that's more of an experiential thing. So to me, there's a lot of different there's a lot of different reasons blocks can happen, but a lot of the times, blocks can also be like, you know, you're around a lot of people, and that's the status quo, and you're just like, and just like, you know, they say you're the average of your five closest friends, and it can affect you positively or negatively your environment as well. If they're all like, oh, yeah, we don't do that, then you're just unconsciously, like, a lot of times, like, also pumping the brakes, um, in that manner, but yeah, to me, energy blocks you could have, let's say you could have it in your heart, right? That could be, oh, eight limiting beliefs in there, like, you know, five traumatic events, like, you know, um, seven things that were seven, um, self talks over that are not nice or whatever, and they're all just, they're all just like, clumped in an area. So when to me, when you release that you're you're working on things that you don't you know and things that you might never know, but it doesn't matter, because you just feel the you know, all of a sudden, you either feel light or the relief, or often, you can just move forward in ways that you felt like it was hard to do in the past you know.
Alex Ferrari 14:51
How can someone recognize energy blocks within themselves?
Oliver Niño 14:55
So for some people, it is like physical, physical. They like, you know. They walk into a room, or someone walks in their room, and that person's negative. They feel it in the pit of their stomach. They're like, for some, it's a very like physical experience. For some, they're gonna they know there's like, yeah, there's just something not right with that person. They're off. So for me, in order to recognize energy blocks at first, you gotta start attempting to become in tune more with energy and how it works your energy, right? Because what ends up happening is you're gonna, people are gonna start realizing that, oh, shoot, I talked to this person and I'm uplifted and I'm fueled, or talk to this person and I'm drained, and they're and I'm tired, and I'm now on a roller coaster emotionally. So once you understand how energy works first, then you can be like, oh, there's patterns in here. Then I think the next level will become energy blocks, right? But I think the the initial thing to understand is just like, how does energy affect your life? And how do you interpret energy based on your unique, you know, gifts. How are you? Are you more of a Knower? You just know? Are you a feeler? Where you're feeling it emotionally to where, if someone's feeling something, you're feeling the same emotions, and your body's releasing the same, you know, hormones or chemicals, like you had it. Or is it more like a body thing, where you know, they're in pain. You're in pain, right? So I think at first it's like becoming in tune with that of like, how does energy? And people will be surprised, because a lot of times we have this active growing up as kids, it's just that we've forgotten about them, or we turned them off, or we dim with them. You know, we dim their abilities because no one was there to teach us about it, or was weird? Did you want to? Want to get ostracized? You know?
Alex Ferrari 16:43
So there when you were saying that, it sounds almost like what the animal kingdom does. Where like, if there's a pack of wolves, if there's a sick Wolf, they will stay away from them. If there's someone ill, or even if, even if a person with an illness comes into a group of animals, some of them will come to comfort it, but a lot sometimes it would, depending on what kind of sickness it is, will they will just walk away, because they can sense it. They can feel it. And you've seen that. Have you seen that in your work with just animals and stuff?
Oliver Niño 17:14
I've seen it with animals. They're probably one of the they're more perceptive and energetically in tune. Then humans, you'll see it with dogs like, you know, they're starting to start barking in someone that has negative energy in like an Ender, and if someone has positive energy around them, you see it with horses as well, right? I mean, I've seen it with I've seen it so many times. I've had it to where we've had back when we were living in Dallas, we were in this high rise, and we had them two, two dogs. They were extremely potty trained. They do not make any mess. And and then my friend who was visiting us, landed, and the moment he walks in the door, and he, this guy, has a very anxious energy, both of them out of nowhere, they, they go, they just, they go potty, right? And I thought it was just a fluke, till he came back several months later, and they had no messes, and the same thing they and to me, that's what dogs do. They purge because they know what energy is. So to me, there's different ways to purging. Physical purging is one of the fastest ways to release negative energy. It's why, when you have food poisoning, you you're throwing up, you're expelling it as fast, because and then you feel good because the toxins are out. So the same thing with with with energy is like, whenever there's something that's just like, wow, this, this is an intense amount of negativity or toxicity that they're not used to, you know, then they have to release it, right? So I've seen that more with animals, but it also happens with humans as well. But animals are way more in tune, naturally, is what I've seen
Alex Ferrari 18:50
Where, what can you do to protect your energy? Because some like, for me, anytime I walk into I don't like large crowds. I don't like going to a concert that's like, you know, a mall during Christmas, a horrible horror, because there's so much energy, so many people walking around, I can, I have a sensitivity to it, so I feel those energies. I've been shown a couple of things to kind of protect my my energy, especially if I'm going to walk into a meeting or someone, or in a group where I know there's that one toxic person who just sucks the energy right out of the room. I'm trying to protect myself from them. Is there any techniques that you can give the audience on how to protect their energy when they're in those kind of environments?
Oliver Niño 19:34
Yeah, so I think it definitely comes in stages. So the first stage is you want protection is an active thing in the first stage, and at higher stages it becomes an automatic thing to where you're not thinking about it as much, because ultimately the goal is your vibration becomes your protection. And you probably experience you know, or people that are watching this times in their life. Have to where there is such a high vibration, to where nothing can throw them off. Problems that problems are people that typically could affect them. They're like, and there's times to where, you know, you're in a low vibration, to where, oh gosh, like, you know, normally you can deal with that, but you just can't. It's just so much because you're in a place where your low vibration and your your fuel tank is empty door, you're just like, you can right? So to me, I look at it as a vibration base, and I try to do things that kind of land me in a high vibration most of the time, 80% of the time. So 80% of the time, I'm not worried about protection, right? But when I started out, 100% of the time, that's all I thought about, because I would go out there and it would be debilitating. So I didn't want to go to malls, I didn't want to go out. And I thought being cocooned in your house saved you, but it doesn't right, because when you when I realized that, like, you know, the energy, there's this one time I remember, like, you know, I I had grown a business, one of the businesses, and I wasn't worried about money. I didn't have any, you know, anxiety around money. I didn't have anxiety around bills. I just like, that wasn't the thing I was worried about. I was worried about employees and all that, but not about bills. And all of a sudden, this, this, this, this fear and anxiety about bills hit me, and I was having these thought patterns that I normally wouldn't have, and I'm like, This is odd. And one of for 20-30, minutes, and I was looking around being like, what was the trigger? What was I exposed to? Did something happen? What like? Because typically, there's a cause and effect, and I couldn't find anything, and I was driving me crazy. And then my mom calls me, and she was worried about these anxiety about bills and and and and and worrying about it, but she's been thinking about it, probably for last 30 minutes, and thinking of me, and then she finally called me, and I realized, oh, shoot, even if I don't go out to the mall, doesn't matter, because energy affects me, even if she was in another state, right? So when I realized that I'm like, Okay, I can't really hide from from energy. I just have to master it. So there's different ways. I mean, a lot of times you can do like, you know, I mean protective shields, like, I teach that a lot of like, you know, imagining light coming down and putting you in, like, a bubble or a pyramid, right? And, and for a lot of people, that works really, really well. And they just figure out, you know, what color works for them, because for some it's white, it's purple, it's gold, they respond to different colors, you know. And then for some, pyramids work better. Or for some they like they'd like to be in the bubble. For some, they'd like to be, you know, in a whirlwind, like, you know. And then they find a specific combination, and then they try it out, and then they feel calm. And then they go to the mall, and they're like, Wow, I don't feel extreme anxiety. And the goal, really, to me, the goal isn't complete blocking it, because the way I look at it is you just have to know what is too much, because it's like a pressure cooker. And just there's a threshold that you can handle. And sometimes, if you can handle this, and you have just a little bit over it, that's what throws you off. It becomes unbearable, like it's becomes too much, and if you can get it a little bit lower, then you're good. So to me, it's not the complete I gotta block everything and anything, because if you do, then you block out the good as well. It's like, what is too much, and can I lower it? And then over time, realizing that you can grow to where you're too much can be higher to where now your capacity and threshold to deal with stuff is more right? So to me, it's like you can do shields. Some people like, you know, at the beginning I did a lot of crystals. Right where I would I would work, I would actually have crystals right now, I would have a crystal like a dark one, like Black Tourmaline or or Smokey Quartz or obsidian or string guide. Because the black ones, what they do is they become your first line of defense. Instead of the energy going to you directly and affecting your energy centers, it goes to here. So it goes here. But this thing gets full so at the beginning, I had this, and then I would have a bracelet next to it that's a Citrine. So Citrine is like a crystal that carries the energy of the sun, and it does not it's one of the few ones that they you don't need to clear, but it can clear anything that's near it. So to me, my system was okay. I have this that absorbs, add a bracelet or a necklace, or in my pocket, that absorbs negativity from everybody else. Then I had this that cleared this fella. So became a system of like, instead of me feeling everything out, feel just a little bit, but it wasn't debilitating, right? So at the beginning, it's a lot about, like, you know, active stuff that you do and you're all you're looking for is like the relief, the can you walk in the mall and instead of it being level 10, can it be a level four? Can it be level two? I mean, sometimes you're gonna lock out, it's gonna be zero or one, but can it be manageable so you're not debilitated? And can you see a difference? And you're going for those that you're going from. For those like extremely significant but changes, but not completely removing it, because that can come. But I want to get people used to just get it to where you're not frozen and debilitated and, you know, and just spiraling. Just get it to where you can do it at first and notice the difference, right?
Alex Ferrari 25:21
So when you mention crystals, crystals have always been fascinating to me, because I haven't, we haven't really spoken a whole lot about crystals. Can you explain what they do in regards to energy, how people can help, be helped with it? You know, when you start getting into crystals, there is science behind it, but it is, yeah, associated with so much New Age woo, woo stuff. Yeah, that it's not taken seriously by by many people. But there is science. I mean, we use crystals every day in our technology. It's, it's, oh, yeah, it's, it's part of what we do. So can you talk a little bit about that, how it works with energy?
Oliver Niño 25:55
Yeah. I mean, honestly, you're right. There's a lot of science, and if people want to research it, there's a ton of it on crystals and and to me, crystals, so I want to speak on the short term and long term, long term. The goal is realizing that anything that a crystal can do, anything at an external tool can do you can do, right? But does it mean the tool is bad, right? So I went from a phase of, like, dependent on crystals, to not using crystals, to now I'm like, I have it because it's like, I can use it. I don't have to use it. I know my power, and I also know it's used, and I'm okay with using a tool, because by using a tool, it was what it's here for. So for me, the way I look at it is crystals are it's kind of like if you look at if you look at nature, nature has a way of helping us here. It's a way of healing us. That's why, when you go out there barefoot, you're grounding the earth grounds you. If you're walking by the ocean, you get negative ions, right? If you're you know, you have different herbs that are there that are meant to help with as remedies for for different ailments, right? So, nature has a lot of its healing properties. You go out there in the sun, you get vitamin D, and you go in places where there is no sun, and it's like, you know, and it's gloomy, people feel depressed, right? Because the sun has a way of clearing our energy as well. Um, so the way I look at is crystals is the same thing. They're nature's way of helping us, whether it's whether to feel good, you know, to access, you know, clarity and intuition to for protection for different areas of life that matter to us. Typically, crystals have hold a consciousness right, the make it easy for you to remember and tune in to that. So if I'm holding a Selenite crystal right, and the crystal, the Selenite crystal is typically holds the the consciousness and the vibration of higher realms, angelic realms, the higher frequencies. Then, to me, by being around it, I'm just like, Ooh, I'm tuning into something that I normally don't, and I can now be like, that's what it feels like because and then eventually you'll be able to do that on demand without really having a crystal. But to me, it reminds you of something that you might not even forgotten, but you're just not attuned to, and you can't put a word to it, or you can't easily access it, because you just haven't tried it. It's like trying a new food. You try it once, you're like, that's what it tastes like. It's same thing. Now you know what it tastes like. Same thing with crystals. It's like, I might be like, Hey, you should have it for so that you're you feel abundant, but you're like, What does abundance feel like? Then you're like, oh, okay, that's a unique frequency. So to me, it's a trainer. It reminds us of these different consciousness, levels of consciousness and vibrations and frequencies that are available to us, but we might just not been taught, or we're not familiar with, you know?
Alex Ferrari 28:58
So when you were mentioning about keeping your energy at a high frequency or a low frequency. And I think most people vary. It depends on the day, depends on the situation, depends on moods, all that kind of stuff. But I've heard stories, and I'd love to hear your thoughts about this. I've heard stories of these master yogis that are at that they're vibrating at such a high frequency that when they walk in, if someone even is 50 feet from them, they become intoxicated by this blissful energy. It's almost like a drug, and that's why there's people that like, like to be around them and all that kind of stuff. I've heard those stories. What is your thinking about that? What have you heard?
Oliver Niño 29:42
I absolutely true. I mean, the way I look at it is the very so Sedona does that, right? So Sedona has vortex points, and they're there, you know? They're known to have either a masculine energy vortex or a feminine energy vortex, right? And if you step on an area that has a. Them in an energy vortex in Sedona, time disappears. You're cradled in love. You're like, oh, this is amazing. You're cocoon. It's like, unconditional, Divine Love, where you could do no wrong and you can just it's like, if, if somebody has shattered pieces, they just all come back together, glued. And you just feel intoxicated, like what you said, very, very blissful, right? And it's ideal when you're working through a lot of the toughest stuff is to have that energy, because now it's easier for you and faster for you to heal through it. Now the masculine vortex completely different, right? It is. It is like whirlwind, and it's all the crap that's shoved under the rug that you may be aware of, that you're not even aware of these all come together all at once, level 10 in your face, and it's all there, and it might throw you off because it's too much, but that's what it does. It brings everything so you can deal with it, right? And so to me, Sedona isn't just a place people can house that energy. So, you know, we've been able to do that like so, for example, when my wife, when people go into her workshops, she houses the divine unconditional love, and people walk in and they start crying, people walk in and they start shifting. They're having breakthroughs on an energetic level, because that's what that energy does, right? And to me, like I started off my journey being very masculine, being able to house that masculine energy. So when so people stuff would come, people will be purging, right, like they would, they would have the same purge like they would if people did psychedelics, they would have the same purge or plant medicine that they would when I do energy work at the very beginning, because I was very much purge, purge fast as to bring it up, and that was my intention. And when I learned how to do what my wife did, and kind of blend in a little bit more of that unconditional love into it, it was like it was fast, but it was smoother. There wasn't that much of the purge or the pain. It was just like it blended in. So to me, I feel like those two energies. They both exist within us, the masculine energy and the feminine energy, the yin and the yang and the harnessing and the mastering of that. And it depends some situations you would need, you know, the masculine energy to go and shift things. And for some it's like divine feminine, unconditional love. And for some, it's the blend, right? So to me, I feel like they're they're energies that can be honed, can be harnessed, can be mastered.
Alex Ferrari 32:25
A lot of that we've been talking about, it almost sounds very three dimensional, very earth bound stuff that we've been talking about. What is all of this energy work, uh, implications of it spiritually on somebody's life, because you mentioned Jae spiritually, because you've you call yourself a spiritual, active, spiritual activator. What does that exactly mean, and how does that connect to our spirituality and our growth as a soul?
Oliver Niño 32:54
At the very beginning, you're removing blocks. That's the goal. Because, to me, having blocks are like having the emergency brakes on while you're driving, right? And the National hierarchy of needs you just got to address, you know, the things that keep you in survival and survival and safety and trauma response. And to me, that's what blocks do. And when they're removed, you elevate a little bit higher and then, and then there's the spiritual gifts, all right, you know, and that's the other part that I work on. Is, like, you know, in Sedona, like one of the gifts that came up is, I would know, actually, I didn't know back that I know now, but I would my wife pointed it out to me. Is, like, everybody that you're around, within like, a few days, something weird would happen, and they would their gifts would activate, whether someone would be around me. Next thing you know, they're psychic, and they dream about something, and it comes true, and it never happened, you know, before encounter. And then that same thing with channeling, that same thing with all these other gifts, hands on healing. When my wife said that, and she's like everyone around you, like, you know, after that, after that incident, that's what's happening. And I'm like, it's odd. And then she's like, you're a spiritual activator. So to me, that's how gifts work a lot of because my mom, for example, growing up, she would dream about things that would happen, and they would happen every single time. And when I eventually, like, several years ago, I told her mom, you're a psychic. He's like, Oh, no, no, no, I'm not a psychic because it conflicted with the Catholic upbringing. And you can't be psychic and Catholic because you're that's evil. That's a devil. But, yeah, but the the the the this owning of the gift, or the distancing, doesn't stop from it, stop it from happening, because the gifts don't, don't occur in the mind. They come from somewhere higher. So somebody can completely be in denial and still have the gift. So for me, this is what happened, is I had that and I wasn't aware that was happening. And that's when I was like, let me, let me become aware of this and figure out how this works. And and I did become more intentional. So I could, you know, I could at least do it on demand, if. Somebody wanted to help activating their gifts, then I could, like, you know, I can do energy work on it. But what I realized is that spiritual gifts, we are all born with them, right? You see, you see it with kids. It's just that it's either becomes unconscious. We just We dissociate from them, we run away from them, I made a lot of people. I have a lot of first responders and and law law enforcement officers. And you won't believe how many, how many times somebody walks into a crime scene and and they tell me that they can taste the drug that somebody overdosed on, and they would tell the coroner and the Coronavirus. How did you know? Or some are some friends of mine. One of my best friends is under Sheriff here, and they were doing a somebody's there was, like, 15 years ago, he was leading the SWAT SWAT team and and there was a robbery in the store, and then they went to the store, and they're like, it's so and so. So they went to this guy's house, the whole SWAT team, and he was there, and he heard his voice out of nowhere that said, duck like, you know? He's like, what? And he didn't even, he didn't even flinch. He just did it, and he had a rifle bullet, Miss like, graced his hair. Miss it by an inch, you know. And to me, I'm like, That's the gift you have got, the gift of hearing guidance that saved your life. And a lot of times, it's not always the voice. It's a feeling, you know, it's a nudge, it's a dream, and that's one form of it. But the way I look at it is our spiritual gifts. When we have blocks, it's hard for us to really become aware or access them, because we're still dealing with the blocks. But to me, the gifts are where it's at. It's how we manifest, it's how we get guidance. It's how we're guided in life. It's how we know what to do, what's good for us, how to avoid pain, you know, so to me, that's that's the ultimate. One of the ultimate levels is like stepping into your gifts, embracing them, learning about them, and going beyond just the the blocks that we have, you know,
Alex Ferrari 36:59
Now I wanted to talk to you about, you know, we've been talking about individual energy blocks, yeah, but I have, you know, I, I believe that the that, the the humanity itself, has its own energy, collective energy. And I'd love to hear what you think the energy blocks are of humanity, and what are we working through? What has? How are we expanding our consciousness, where we're going? I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.
Oliver Niño 37:28
Yeah, it's interesting when it comes when it comes to collective because I feel like like anything else, if you study people that have, whether it's the juices or the Buddhas or the ones that have come before us, that are that you know, radically change the you know just how we how we are, say, as humanity, if you look at them, it's one individual in their full essence and light moving humanity forward by leaps and bounds. So the way I look at it is there are people that are held back by societal blocks, you know, country consciousness or world consciousness. There are people that they they're just in a field to where they're affected by that. Something happens like, you know, politically, or something happens in the world they're always affected by that. It's always a big thing. And then you have people that have transcended that, and their main goal is to raise humanity forward evolve, and they're just ahead of their time. And I think that's to me, is what I've seen over the last several years is just a massive shift in consciousness to where you're having people that are having to have going through the awakenings. They're waking up, and they have to choose whether they want to wake up and stay where they are. They but there's now a choice to where there are people that are now breaking free from all these limitations, and the people that are staying and you're, I'm seeing, you're seeing more of a division and frequency, right? But the cool thing about that is, once you have, you know, once you have enough people that wake up, it it starts tilting in their favor. Because when you have people that wake up, if you think about it, if you have individuals that choose their full light, and they can change the entire world, or billions of people's lives and a one, but if you have, collectively, people waking up, then the energetic ripple effect of that is whether somebody wants to wake up or not when you're around, when you're surrounded, you know, by an environment, through osmosis, so people who you're connected to, who are waking up, it will affect you, right and give and that's why, in the last several years, you've seen people through COVID become more sensitive than others through energy. All of a sudden, empaths are waking up, and they're like, why am I? And all these gifts are coming up, because it's what happens when the you know, collective energy wakes up. It's like, it wakes you up, whether you like it or not. You can fight it, you can write it, but it happens. So to me, what I've seen is like, over the last several years, there's this collective way. Wave of healing, this collective wave of triggers coming up to be healed, this collective wave of things that are put in, put in front of our faces so we could heal. We could make a decision. We can make a choice, right? And I've seen a lot more of that. So to me, it's interesting, because the group, collective energy is healing, right? It is. It is being pushed towards awakening, healing, leveling up. And that doesn't look pretty at times, because part of healing is, is purging. Part is, part of healing is releasing. The old part of healing is, are things coming up that are painful, right? But if you have no context, that's, that's what healing is, or the process, you just think it's bad, it's not
Alex Ferrari 40:43
I'm going crazy, or I'm going crazy. Yeah, exactly. There's so many people right now that I've noticed that are doing these awakenings, and they don't want they didn't want it. It wasn't. They didn't go looking for it. They're not they're not reading books, they're not going to Sedona, they're not going to Tibet. You know, they're not on a search, but yet they're waking up, and a lot of this, this crap, it's kind of like your food poisoning analogy earlier, all that's coming up, and it has to be expelled out, and you have to work through it and get it out of you so you could be able to move on. But a lot of people just truly have no idea what is happening to them. So if you can give any advice to somebody who is going through this awakening, this this leveling up of their frequencies that they truly did not ask for, how do you do how what advice do you have for them for dealing with it?
Oliver Niño 41:37
Well, here's the biggest thing is, most of the time, people don't know, it's what they ask for, right? Yeah, people are like, people don't know. People are like, I want love, or I want more money. I want to feel good, or I want to find they say something that they want in life, or they say enough is enough. I'm tired of being broke, you know? I'm tired of being around toxic and narcissistic and negative people. I don't want this. People don't realize that their word, what they intend, is powerful. Intention is so powerful. Think about like prayer is a form of intention, and all the stories about someone sick and a loved one praying for them, and then it's, you know, they get spontaneously healed, and that's not even placebo, that's someone else praying for you, and you're healed based on someone's intention. So people forget sometimes the power of spoken word, whether it's like, I'm done with that or I want that, right? So the way I look at it is someone's like, you know, I'm tired of all these, you know, toxic relationships and not having love. And next thing you know, they're going through an awakening, and like, you know, triggers are coming up. They're doing healing, Mother wounds, Father wounds, self talks come all these different things, and they're like, what's going on? And I'm like, you're clearing the thing that has been causing you to attract the thing that you don't want, that you just mentioned that you don't want in your life. But because no one explained it to you, you're looking at it from this time frame, not realizing it sucks in this time frame. But in this time frame, if you zoom out and look at the process, is exactly what I asked for, it's exactly what I prayed for, right? So a lot of the times, the missing context brings pain to people because they don't realize the thing that's happening. The next step to that is exactly what they're looking for. They just had to go through that to get to what they what he just said they wanted, right?
Alex Ferrari 43:28
So where do you think humanity's collective energy is going towards in these next five to 10 years? Because, to be honest, uh, Oliver from 2016 I'd say 2012 it started. But 2016 but specifically 2020 it has been a roller coaster of energy from 2020 This is the weirdest decade I've ever been a part of in my lifetime, and it doesn't seem like it's slowing down. It seems like it's starting to speed up and get a little bit more chaotic with all of the things happening with natural natural disasters and politics and money and health and all this stuff, where do you feel its energy is going?
Oliver Niño 44:10
It's interesting because I've actually worked on a lot of different levels. Like, I work with, like, you know, individual people, collective, you know, presidential families. I do that because I try to understand what the cause and effect is. I don't understand what moves the needle for humanity. And what I've realized with working with people at the highest levels and people that are just like me, everyday people, is that the power is with the people, right? The power to change your life isn't external. It's within that. And I've seen people at the darkest of times externally, live the best lives, and they change everything in there. You look at them, you're like, they're lucky. How are they so happy? How are they so abundant? How are how is everything? Happening for them, and I've seen the opposite. I've seen when there's the best of times and people are just suffering, right? So to me, the biggest, the biggest point I want to make is once you get into a place where I feel like you've healed to a point, and I'm not saying like, because often when people hear healing, they think it's a lifelong thing to me, healing is a phase. You do it to where, to a place to where you're good. You're no longer in fight or flight, you're in a you're in a thriving place, in a place to where you just like you feel good and you're empowered most of the time, that's good. And when you're there, you realize that a lot of the things happening around you affect you only when you lend consciousness to it, and it becomes your world, your focus, and you realize that you have no say in it, whereas for me, when I look at the external world, I realize, okay, what's my what's my contribution, what is my what is my role in all this stuff? And when I realized, okay, the way I can make an impact is, is realizing, if I help people heal, if I help people step into their gifts, they're going to be more empowered. You're going to be more they're going to feel more free. And if we have a we have a world of people empowered and free, then that wouldn't be the case externally, right? So I look at it more from a root perspective of like I feel like the reason why we're at where we are is because we've stepped away from our power. We've given it away. We don't realize that we're creators of our own reality. We think everything's outside of us. But if you fix that, then it doesn't matter, like you would live with in a world where everyone's empowered and awakened, or majority are, it will be a very different world. So the way I look at it is it goes beyond politics. It goes beyond terms, because you don't know how fast humanity shifts, but to me, the play becomes, how do you get humanity from giving their power away, to realize having to relate, that if you do have it within, and if I can do that, and that's my specific purpose in on on Earth, and that's the only thing I can control, right? So to me, when I look at humanity, it's interesting, because I think anything can change in the moment, because I've seen how fast things can change and the way to change. It really is not to me. It's not external. It's it to me, it's completely internal. And I don't think people realize the power, because I've seen it happen. It happened in my own life, and I've seen happen with other people. Is when somebody changes, they affect everybody around them, their family members, their environment, everybody. It's like a ripple effect, because if people can affect you negatively, I think the thing that's super underrated is people don't realize you can affect them positively. You can be that person that walks in the room and everybody feels, oh, Yo, you just brought in love and energy and bliss. And I just feel you can be that. But a lot of times people think I can't be that because I'm afraid to go out there and be affected by everybody else that they don't see that there's another part of the story. So for me, I'm focused on, how can I get people to do that? Because, and I've seen literally, people come to me saying, Oliver, I'm here because I want to heal my husband, I want my kids, my family. I'm like, forget about them. Trust me, for 90 days, just work on you see what happens. And the 90 days, they're like, oh my gosh, my my husband's better, my family's better, everyone's better. And I'm like, that's the power, because when you choose your own healing, you become the potent environment for your family. So if they can affect you negatively, guess what? You can do it as well through energy. And they're all shocked because they're like, I didn't even have to heal them. They're better. But how is that possible, right? So to me, I that's the goal. Is like, if I get an individual to wake up, it affects more than just them, right? And, and that's something that I I can control in a way, because that's my output, right? So the way I look at it is, like, I look at it as, I don't think it's time based. I think it's things can happen much faster than we think, is just that, you know, it's with time speeding up. We just have to focus on the right things that move the needle.
When you say time is speeding up, can you explain what that means? Because I understand what you mean. I feel it. We all kind of feel that things are just moving at the speed of, I mean, it's just moving so, so, so fast. I always use the example of, you know, AI. AI was a thing that was talked about in The Terminator films, and, you know, these kind of things, and all of a sudden, it's in our lives. It's integral part of our lives. Now, in a way that the internet was when it first came out, it but it, but from where the internet first came out to where it really took hold of our lives was years. Ai did it in a matter of months, you know? So that's an example of it speeding up. What do you mean exactly when you say that?
I mean, everything is speeding up. Like, you're right, like, AI speeding up. You had, back in the day we had the modem, was like , like five minutes and I'm like. Opening up a picture is like, this is like, you know, floppy dicks and all this stuff. And now it's fiber optic. So if I look at that, between that two advances in telephone technology to advances in, like, people's in money, like, you know, back in the day, it took them this long to build a billion dollar company. And you now, you have billion dollar companies being born faster than you ever imagined, just the speed at which humanity is operating. But I think the other level to that is we're becoming more energetically aware, as well as a, as a, as a society, as as to me, humanity is becoming more energetically aware. And when that happens, things are faster. Because now when somebody talks, when somebody says something, when you see somebody on TV, not only you're not only are you hearing the words and seeing what you're saying, you're feeling the energy. Therefore you're processing more information than you're used to. Therefore you're getting decisions faster you make. You're getting affected faster it moves everything. So I think with that awakening, people are becoming whether you know it or not, it might show up as energetic sensitivity or extra, extra. You know, sensitivity to negativity is like we're now processing more energetically, therefore we're having to process more data that we're normally used to, right? There's a lot more now to it. It's why people can feel the truth. When somebody says something, they can, it hits them faster. Now they can feel it, or they or if they're resisting it, they're like, you know, there's this they can feel, there's a resistance. But I feel like we're in a day and age now to where, you know, people like you said, are awakening. So with that awakening, it awakens all these other senses that we're not typically used to. It's kind of like seeing those videos on on Facebook, the viral ones, where you have that kid that's not able to see well or hear, and they have the the glasses for the first time and the hearing aids, and they're like, Oh, it's a lot of it's a lot of information to process, and we're getting used to that so and it speeds things up, because what normally takes this long now it's here, but you have to go through the phase of getting used to the processing all that overwhelming information and knowing what to do with it, what's real, what's not, right?
Alex Ferrari 52:12
Growing pains, essentially,
Oliver Niño 52:14
Exactly.
Alex Ferrari 52:15
So humanity is going through massive growing pains, right now.
Oliver Niño 52:19
I think, I think it's heading in the right direction is just that. It's just like the awkward teenage like, you know, puberty growing pains. You're You're, you're you're, you know, the hormones are kicking in. Your knees hurt, and you're straight and you're just cranky, right? We're going through that as a, as a, as a collective, is what it is. And we don't know we're going through that. We don't know what's it's because of our growing we think it's because we're deteriorating. We're thinking like, Oh, you're, you know, you're in your deathbed, and this is the worst. No, you're going through the teenage growth. You know, for me, it's like your teenage growth.
Alex Ferrari 52:54
There is, there is something that I've felt, and I've been, I've spoken to a lot of spiritual mystics and things like that, in regards to this energy. Because it fascinates me that we it seems like the Earth itself, you know, if you want to start getting into the astrological connections with other planets, and the energy that comes in from other planets and so on, it seems like we're being bombarded by energy that it's leveling us up by that is leveling this up, and it's overwhelming for a lot of people, hence why so many people seem to be going a little loony while, you know, we see it. I mean, there's things that are happening now that are horrific, that happen. And I'm like, when I was growing up, 70s, 80s, you just wouldn't hear about these kind of things. It just didn't exist, and now it's become more and more commonplace, because people are just can't handle what this is it's coming in. Would you agree?
Oliver Niño 53:49
Absolutely! I think there is so much in the last 1015, years of beyond this planet, frequency affecting our planet, and I think it's causing it to shift at a higher vibration, to level up, for sure. So a lot of veils that are being lifted, you know, a lot of things are being made apparent, a lot of things that are that are honestly like before, like never, never, never saw the light of day, because that information is like, maybe a few people know. And now I was like, everybody can access it. So to me, it's like, it's very interesting. I do, and I know it because I people come to me from from, you know, different parts of the world, and I'm like, the things they're coming with at this period of time, they're all the same in the last two weeks. And I'm also feeling energy out, you know, beyond this world that's like, like, this new wave has just hit the world, and it's affecting everybody from all over the world. They're not even talking to each other, but the pattern is the same, right, whether they call it, you know, Mercury's in retrograde, or full moon, or whatever that is. I'm like. Uh, those things happen beyond a full moon. They're happening at different times, I feel like, when the planet needs it, or whatever. But there's multiple energetic interferences that if you thought about it individually, it won't make sense. You're like, why is this happening to me? This is crazy, but you don't realize millions of other people from all over the world are having the exact same thing, and they're being affected by something because it's a global it's not so much a you thing. It's a global thing because of external energy affecting
Alex Ferrari 55:34
I mean, and covid was a perfect example of something that affected the entire planet Exactly. I've never, I don't remember ever in the history of man, something collectively, all at once, stopping the planet, stopping humanity from moving forward for for a second, even if it was a few weeks that we all kind of shut down and were forced to stay in the house, it was still something so global, so powerful, that it had to, had to do something to us.
Oliver Niño 56:02
And the amount of people that woke up during that time that they would that would say, like, being at home and being introspective and being with, you know, myself, and the realizations that happen. I mean, there was a lot of, like, you know, there's a lot of loss, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of that stuff that went on that, you know, that. But there was also a lot of awakening that, when I look at it as like, there were a lot of lessons learned during that time that, you know, people were like, wow, I'm glad I learned that, or glad I experienced that shift, or that realization, or they're not able to focus on healing something that they weren't able to heal in the past, because they have the time and the space. So to me, it had, it had, you know, it definitely had some really surprising benefits for a lot of people as well, as far as like the growth and the healing the spiritual from the spirituality aspect.
Alex Ferrari 56:53
Now I'm going to ask you a few questions I ask all my guests, Oliver, what is your, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?
Oliver Niño 57:00
My answer is very different from from my wife's, um, her answer is like, I feel God in everything that I do, right? God's presence. Uh, for me, it's, I've always been a growth oriented person, right? So to me fulfillment. I'm not really would my goals that I have, how grand it is. Of like, hey, I want the whole entire world to heal. I think fulfillment to me is in the it's in feeling that at every moment, like, you know, I'm just like, in on track, growing and evolving to hit what I what I feel like I was born to do like what I'm doing is fulfilling. The actual act of purpose for me is the fulfillment is like living every day, being like, Am I doing purpose? Great. I'm fulfilled. So for me, it's the active of living, living that on a daily basis.
Alex Ferrari 58:00
If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Oliver, what advice would you give him?
Oliver Niño 58:05
Ooh, it's a good one. I'll probably say everything that's happening now is happening because all of your wildest dreams and even the things that you can't even dream about is being prepared for you.
Alex Ferrari 58:23
How do you define God or Source?
Oliver Niño 58:25
God and source, to me, is the life force that connects everybody on the planet, everybody on on in the universe. It's it's what breeds life into us. It's how our bodies are able to self heal. It's the unifying energy that connects us, that binds us, that I feel like it's in all of us and collectively we also it's like we have it, the potency of God in every single cell that we can access. But it's also in the collectives. It's in the individuals in the collective it's the is the unifying energy, like it's like the oxygen for our being, for our souls. It just unifies us that we all have. What is love, being able to look at a person you know in front of you, and being able to choose to do or facilitate what's in their highest and best good for you know, for their life, whether it's something that's pleasant or painful, but being able to facilitate what's in the highest good for their soul
Alex Ferrari 59:38
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?
Oliver Niño 59:41
I think, is to life on this planet, is to come back to wholeness and to remember everything that you came here with, so that you can use it.
Alex Ferrari 59:51
And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world?
Oliver Niño 59:54
Yeah, I mean, they can check out my site, spiritualactivator.com and I post a lot of stuff on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, just like, a lot of free content there. So people are like, like, you know, wanting, you know, learn more about techniques and tips. Like, I don't hold back. A lot of them are like, free out there.
Alex Ferrari 1:00:12
And do you have any parting messages for the audience?
Oliver Niño 1:00:18
I think the biggest, the biggest thing, is realizing that, like, you know, for a lot of people, it's realizing that the stage that they're in right now, what you're experiencing is, like, you don't realize how close you are to what you want. And I always thought about this, like a good friend says, like, you know, people are sometimes two to three feet away from gold. They don't know it, or they're standing right on top of it, and they're like, that's never gonna happen for me, like, and they just give up. They tried all their lives, and they're like, and they give up because they can't see it, they can't hear it, they can feel you out of any context. So to me, is realizing that you didn't come this far just to get this far. If you, if they're here listening to you, it's because their soul is probably like, you need this, and it's gonna take you to this next level, and to realize that you're for a lot of people, they're probably way closer to what they want than they think. They just, you know, they just have to go little bit more, and then they're right there. So don't give up. Just like, realize that, like they're being led somewhere, and that it could happen, it can happen it could happen tomorrow. It could happen today, right?
Alex Ferrari 1:01:23
Oliver, it's been a pleasure talking to you, man. And thank you so much for for the information and and for the great work you're doing to awaken this planet, my friend. So I appreciate you.
Oliver Niño 1:01:33
I appreciate this. Is one of this, this to me, is like, such a is that doesn't even feel like a podcast. It feels like a conversation between friends. This, to me, is like perfect dinner conversation, right?
Alex Ferrari 1:01:44
Appreciate you, brother. Thanks again.
Oliver Niño 1:01:47
Thank you. Appreciate you.
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