Leaked images of Transformers WFC Siege Deluxe Ratchet and Bluestreak's robot modes
Thursday, June 13th, 2019 5:55PM CDT
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We knew Ratchet would be made due to him being found in Walgreens' database, meanwhile, Bluestreak's box was briefly seen at Toy Fair 2019 as part of the 35th anniversary subline for Siege.
Bluestreak uses the Prowl mold, but with Smokecreen's, who has weapons from both Prowl and Barricade. Meanwhile, Ratchet has new shoulders, weapon, and of course, head.
So, what are your thoughts on these upcoming figures? Be sure to take these images with a grain of salt, as they are leaked images. Did these meet up with expectations? Will you buy these when they release? Be sure to tell us on the Pub forums below!
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 13th, 2019 @ 6:22pm CDT
But hasbro needs to stop putting characters like this in a poll. Stick to making new characters, not making us choose between character that really do need toys (Siege/PotP) or making it a dumb vote to choose between characters that got good toys recently and those that have not had a generations mainline release ever (Armageddon)
Posted by metalogan on June 13th, 2019 @ 6:23pm CDT
But we are also due for both R and R .
What would be nice is if we got a set of insecticons with cohesive colors
Posted by Decepticon Llorrac on June 13th, 2019 @ 8:34pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 14th, 2019 @ 12:25am CDT
WFC Siege Discussion Thread.
Posted by bacem on June 14th, 2019 @ 12:29am CDT
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on June 14th, 2019 @ 1:50am CDT
bacem wrote:i personally voted for runamuck, but from what i see so far, needlenose seems to be the most potential winner.
Yeah, I've noticed Needlenose seems to be first, with Runamuck as a relatively close second, which I'm glad about. I'd much rather have either of them than Shrapnel or Gnaw when we got such good figures of them so recently.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 14th, 2019 @ 3:24am CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on June 14th, 2019 @ 4:23am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:That's probably why those two are ahead over gnaw and Skrapnel, it just seems strange that Needlenose ended up on this poll after losing the other.
Someone over at Hasbro HQ must really want Needlenose to happen.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 14th, 2019 @ 3:52pm CDT
But I'm really leaning towards the site staff fixing the thread links in the newsposts
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on June 16th, 2019 @ 1:47pm CDT
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on June 16th, 2019 @ 1:54pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Primal on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:04pm CDT
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Where was the source that part 2 of War for Cybertron is called Armageddon?
Here you go, this was originally posted on the Siege thread:
Jtprime17 wrote:WFC part 2 will be called "Armageddon"!
A decepticon fan vote will take place to see who will get a figure.
From the transformers weibo
https://www.weibo.com/p/100606210585918 ... 0304925441
Can you recognize who the four Decepticons are in the picture below? Come and share your guesses! Once we publish the identity of these mysterious characters, you have the opportunity to decide which character will appear in 2020. WFC battles Cybertron product line! [中国赞]
The picture didn't carry over right when quoted, but it was the silhouettes of the vote characters and it was up a day before the official reveal/announcement of the vote, so it should be legit.
Also had a thought, do we think that since Siege had two fan vote characters, after we get the results tomorrow there will also be a second poll with a choice of 4 Autobots?
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:17pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:Decepticon Stryker wrote:Where was the source that part 2 of War for Cybertron is called Armageddon?
Here you go, this was originally posted on the Siege thread:Jtprime17 wrote:WFC part 2 will be called "Armageddon"!
A decepticon fan vote will take place to see who will get a figure.
From the transformers weibo
https://www.weibo.com/p/100606210585918 ... 0304925441
Can you recognize who the four Decepticons are in the picture below? Come and share your guesses! Once we publish the identity of these mysterious characters, you have the opportunity to decide which character will appear in 2020. WFC battles Cybertron product line! [中国赞]
The picture didn't carry over right when quoted, but it was the silhouettes of the vote characters and it was up a day before the official reveal/announcement of the vote, so it should be legit.
Also had a thought, do we think that since Siege had two fan vote characters, after we get the results tomorrow there will also be a second poll with a choice of 4 Autobots?
I doubt there will be another poll. They seem to only be doing one poll per year
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:24pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on June 16th, 2019 @ 4:28pm CDT
Which would mean way less 1984 guys since the 1984 'con lineup is pretty much covered by Siege already. This would also be, again, consistent with the guys we saw in the vote who are all 'goon'-type characters.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 16th, 2019 @ 4:37pm CDT
Skritz wrote:Last line was very Autobot-heavy so hopefully we will see reversed roles this time.
Was it? Only the Deluxe Class was pretty lopsided in the Autobots' favor, the others were pretty balanced.
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on June 16th, 2019 @ 4:54pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Skritz wrote:Last line was very Autobot-heavy so hopefully we will see reversed roles this time.
Was it? Only the Deluxe Class was pretty lopsided in the Autobots' favor, the others were pretty balanced.
Leader class and the Micromasters were tipped towards the Autobots as well.
If I'm not mistaken, the Battlemasters were mostly Autobots too
Posted by Skritz on June 16th, 2019 @ 4:55pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Skritz wrote:Last line was very Autobot-heavy so hopefully we will see reversed roles this time.
Was it? Only the Deluxe Class was pretty lopsided in the Autobots' favor, the others were pretty balanced.
Really now?
Battle Masters: 4 vs 3
Micromasters:: 4 Sets vs 3 Sets
Deluxe Class:: 10 vs 4
Voyager Class: 2 vs 4
This one, as established, is kind of an anomaly.
Leader Class: 2 vs 1
Commander Class: A single , Jetfire.
Titan Class: Again, a single which is to say Omega Supreme plus his micromaster buddy.
Even taking the exclusives into account as their own category we get 6 vs 2
Posted by Burn on June 16th, 2019 @ 5:24pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on June 16th, 2019 @ 5:25pm CDT
Burn wrote:**** Autobot favouritism. Kids these days just don't appreciate good evil characters.
If you think that's bad, keep in mind that in Japan if your mecha show isn't called Gundam or Transformers you'll NEVER see a toy of the bad guys. No joke.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 16th, 2019 @ 5:31pm CDT
Skritz wrote:Burn wrote:**** Autobot favouritism. Kids these days just don't appreciate good evil characters.
If you think that's bad, keep in mind that in Japan if your mecha show isn't called Gundam or Transformers you'll NEVER see a toy of the bad guys. No joke.
... unless it's a Kamen Rider by title.
Posted by Nemesis Primal on June 16th, 2019 @ 5:39pm CDT
Skritz wrote:Presumably, the implied continuity story is that the Autobots have lost the Siege and now the 'cons are trampling all over what little territory and forces they have left. Last line was very Autobot-heavy so hopefully we will see reversed roles this time.
Given that Hasbro's little write-up for this fan vote said that the winner of this vote would stowaway on the Ark, that storyline would make sense.
Also I just now realized I misread and that we find out the poll results in a month, not tomorrow. I read June....
Posted by Burn on June 16th, 2019 @ 5:42pm CDT
Skritz wrote:Burn wrote:**** Autobot favouritism. Kids these days just don't appreciate good evil characters.
If you think that's bad, keep in mind that in Japan if your mecha show isn't called Gundam or Transformers you'll NEVER see a toy of the bad guys. No joke.
I live in regional Australia, I'm lucky to see the "latest" toys within 6 months.
Posted by Skritz on June 16th, 2019 @ 5:52pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Skritz wrote:Burn wrote:**** Autobot favouritism. Kids these days just don't appreciate good evil characters.
If you think that's bad, keep in mind that in Japan if your mecha show isn't called Gundam or Transformers you'll NEVER see a toy of the bad guys. No joke.
... unless it's a Kamen Rider by title.
That's a henshin hero not a mecha.
Posted by william-james88 on June 17th, 2019 @ 10:16am CDT
Skritz wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Skritz wrote:Last line was very Autobot-heavy so hopefully we will see reversed roles this time.
Was it? Only the Deluxe Class was pretty lopsided in the Autobots' favor, the others were pretty balanced.
Really now?
Battle Masters: 4 vs 3
Micromasters:: 4 Sets vs 3 Sets
Deluxe Class:: 10 vs 4
Voyager Class: 2 vs 4
This one, as established, is kind of an anomaly.
Leader Class: 2 vs 1
Commander Class: A single , Jetfire.
Titan Class: Again, a single which is to say Omega Supreme plus his micromaster buddy.
Even taking the exclusives into account as their own category we get 6 vs 2
What's your point, the ONLY even numbered class to be lopsided in the Autobots' favor is the deluxe class, just as Jelze said (plus you forget that our decepticon deluxe troops are increased by an additional 2 for the extra reflectors, which the case breakdown accounts for). And instead the voyagers, the bigger bots are in favour of Decepticons.
Which makes perfect sense, the whole point of this line is to emulate the first few episodes of G1 where we see that the autobots are more numerous than decepticons, but the Decepticons are bigger.
So kudos to Hasbro for finding a balance in the autobots and decepticon releases this year and taking it to a narrative level rather than a simplistic and innacurate by the numbers class breakdown.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 17th, 2019 @ 10:33am CDT
Posted by Wh33l Jck on June 17th, 2019 @ 10:52am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 18th, 2019 @ 6:55pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Skritz wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Skritz wrote:Last line was very Autobot-heavy so hopefully we will see reversed roles this time.
Was it? Only the Deluxe Class was pretty lopsided in the Autobots' favor, the others were pretty balanced.
Really now?
Battle Masters: 4 vs 3
Micromasters:: 4 Sets vs 3 Sets
Deluxe Class:: 10 vs 4
Voyager Class: 2 vs 4
This one, as established, is kind of an anomaly.
Leader Class: 2 vs 1
Commander Class: A single , Jetfire.
Titan Class: Again, a single which is to say Omega Supreme plus his micromaster buddy.
Even taking the exclusives into account as their own category we get 6 vs 2
What's your point, the ONLY even numbered class to be lopsided in the Autobots' favor is the deluxe class, just as Jelze said (plus you forget that our decepticon deluxe troops are increased by an additional 2 for the extra reflectors, which the case breakdown accounts for). And instead the voyagers, the bigger bots are in favour of Decepticons.
Which makes perfect sense, the whole point of this line is to emulate the first few episodes of G1 where we see that the autobots are more numerous than decepticons, but the Decepticons are bigger.
So kudos to Hasbro for finding a balance in the autobots and decepticon releases this year and taking it to a narrative level rather than a simplistic and innacurate by the numbers class breakdown.
I never meant "balanced" to be "1 for 1" but close to that. The Deluxe Class does stand out the most with the most figures overall, but Voyager Class would too in the other direction had it more figures. Also makes sense as the Jets (scaled to the same 1-inch pilots for the Cars) and Microman-derived toys (roughly 1:1 aka life-size scale) were bigger than the Diaclones.
Posted by o.supreme on June 20th, 2019 @ 1:06pm CDT
Posted by Stargrave on June 20th, 2019 @ 1:08pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:So..am I missing something? I followed the Weibo link, and translated the page into English, I didn't see anything seeming to indicate the next part of the trilogy would be name Armageddon ...
Doesn’t that seem like a better title for, oh I don’t know, the end of the series?
I haven’t seen it anywhere I’m just taking the word of people much smarter than myself.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 20th, 2019 @ 1:09pm CDT
There was some company text with that name on the page back on the day it was first posted, but was immediately deleted minutes later.o.supreme wrote:So..am I missing something? I followed the Weibo link, and translated the page into English, I didn't see anything seeming to indicate the next part of the trilogy would be name Armageddon ...
Posted by o.supreme on June 20th, 2019 @ 1:16pm CDT
00Stargrave00 wrote:Doesn’t that seem like a better title for, oh I don’t know, the end of the series?:lol:
Possibly, but I've always looked at things differently. Sure there have been cataclysmic events in the past, that could be defined as *world ending* (i.e. Armageddon) events. But its always followed by a new beginning, and someone always survives. *Armageddon* could be the dark middle chapter of this trilogy, before the ultimate *Victory* to conclude things
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 20th, 2019 @ 1:33pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on June 20th, 2019 @ 1:45pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Still clinging hope that they put more jg1 in the final part of the trilogy eh? I learned not to hope with this hobby
I get that, but honestly, since coming back with CW, I've gotten a modernization of almost every character I really like, and now my absolute favorite is only a couple of months away. Star Saber and Deszaurus modern updates are begging to be released, if not in 2020, then 2021 for sure. Between & , pretty much every other major faction leader (except Scorponok and Black Zarak) have been released. I'm almost certain we will see that Titan before this Trilogy's end as well.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 20th, 2019 @ 1:49pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on June 20th, 2019 @ 1:56pm CDT
I don't think they would do a Titan Size Unicron for this line, as it would just not scale well with the others, even if it were the biggest of all at some ridiculous 36 inch $350 price point.
The only other 18 inch Combiner Titan I could see being released is Raiden, but as others have stated, that is not likely. OR...They could release Monstructor at Titan Scale 18 inch, THAT would be pretty awesome. But then with 2 Cons' in a row... it would leave things uneven.....who knows, just wild speculation at this point.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 20th, 2019 @ 2:13pm CDT
Now as for the planet bots, there's no way to scale them, so to that effect I don't think they would need titan class, maybe a representation in the commander class and have them just scale with each other. I mean even using the world's smallest tfs, unicron would still be larger then a house
Posted by mordhelm on June 20th, 2019 @ 3:57pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Still clinging hope that they put more jg1 in the final part of the trilogy eh? I learned not to hope with this hobby
I get that, but honestly, since coming back with CW, I've gotten a modernization of almost every character I really like, and now my absolute favorite is only a couple of months away. Star Saber and Deszaurus modern updates are begging to be released, if not in 2020, then 2021 for sure. Between & , pretty much every other major faction leader (except Scorponok and Black Zarak) have been released. I'm almost certain we will see that Titan before this Trilogy's end as well.
That excited about Impactor? I guess I get that.
Just kidding, Omega Supreme is looking fantastic and makes me super glad I had patience to wait for it instead of scratching the itch with a 3rd party figure.
Posted by o.supreme on June 20th, 2019 @ 4:15pm CDT
mordhelm wrote:That excited about Impactor? I guess I get that.
you got me for a second...before I read on
mordhelm wrote:Just kidding, Omega Supreme is looking fantastic and makes me super glad I had patience to wait for it instead of scratching the itch with a 3rd party figure.
Yeah, I've resisted the urge to purchase 3P figures as well. The only one that still holds any interest for me now is FP SAURUS RYU-OH & it's repaint Beastructor. I can wait 2 more years. Hopefully Hasbro or TT will reward my patience with a nice new Monstructor, Dinoking, or BOTH.
Posted by Skritz on June 20th, 2019 @ 4:25pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 20th, 2019 @ 4:29pm CDT
Skritz wrote:So once Scorponok is done who even IS left for Titan Class? I know people say 'Raiden' but I highly doubt it. Seems like the class has pretty much done everyone they could do. Monstructor getting a size upgrade maybe?
Posted by o.supreme on June 20th, 2019 @ 4:30pm CDT
Skritz wrote:So once Scorponok is done who even IS left for Titan Class? I know people say 'Raiden' but I highly doubt it. Seems like the class has pretty much done everyone they could do. Monstructor getting a size upgrade maybe?
Worst case Scenario: Scorponok is the Last Titan Toy for a while.
Best case Scenario: Scorponok, Raiden, Monstructor, & Galaxy Shuttle.
This would give us Titans through 2023, and a Nice Symmetry of 5 good and 5 Evil.
*Edit* Majin Zarak would be cool...Not sure how that would work though. I always envisioned if I was Super Rich I would have kit bashed a USS Flag and made my own
Posted by Skritz on June 20th, 2019 @ 5:31pm CDT
Edit: Galaxy Shuttle would work better as a Commander class.
Posted by blackeyedprime on June 20th, 2019 @ 6:26pm CDT
00Stargrave00 wrote:o.supreme wrote:So..am I missing something? I followed the Weibo link, and translated the page into English, I didn't see anything seeming to indicate the next part of the trilogy would be name Armageddon ...
Doesn’t that seem like a better title for, oh I don’t know, the end of the series?
I haven’t seen it anywhere I’m just taking the word of people much smarter than myself.
Third parts called earth fall and alt modes are blobs/comets and throwback to rock lords.
Posted by Skritz on June 20th, 2019 @ 8:07pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:00Stargrave00 wrote:o.supreme wrote:So..am I missing something? I followed the Weibo link, and translated the page into English, I didn't see anything seeming to indicate the next part of the trilogy would be name Armageddon ...
Doesn’t that seem like a better title for, oh I don’t know, the end of the series?
I haven’t seen it anywhere I’m just taking the word of people much smarter than myself.
Third parts called earth fall and alt modes are blobs/comets and throwback to rock lords.
Or early scenes of the 2007 movie?
Posted by blackeyedprime on June 20th, 2019 @ 11:35pm CDT
Skritz wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:00Stargrave00 wrote:o.supreme wrote:So..am I missing something? I followed the Weibo link, and translated the page into English, I didn't see anything seeming to indicate the next part of the trilogy would be name Armageddon ...
Doesn’t that seem like a better title for, oh I don’t know, the end of the series?
I haven’t seen it anywhere I’m just taking the word of people much smarter than myself.
Third parts called earth fall and alt modes are blobs/comets and throwback to rock lords.
Or early scenes of the 2007 movie?
Pretty much, except they can now be weaponised
Even though I really enjoyed the multiplayer of the first two games and arriving on the battlefield as a dropping comet in the first was kind of cool, but no excuse to ditch the ark. I forget in which comics (probably UK) the ark thought earth vehicles were the sentient beings on Earth so that's why it scanned them.
Posted by sol magnus on June 21st, 2019 @ 9:46am CDT
blackeyedprime wrote: I forget in which comics (probably UK) the ark thought earth vehicles were the sentient beings on Earth so that's why it scanned them.
Probably not (at all). The UK followed the first issues of the US comic, in which the Ark thought the machines were sentient.
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on June 24th, 2019 @ 10:03pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 24th, 2019 @ 10:08pm CDT
Last I recall, Needlenose was at least winning. I don't know if he did win or not.Nathaniel Prime wrote:Sorry if I didn't catch it earlier, but who won the vote?
Posted by Nemesis Primal on June 24th, 2019 @ 10:25pm CDT
Nathaniel Prime wrote:Sorry if I didn't catch it earlier, but who won the vote?
We won't officially know until the 17th of July, so you didn't miss anything.