Leaked image of inner robot of WFC Siege Leader Optimus Prime (Galaxy Convoy)

Back up a minute, Wasn't Galaxy Force Prime on one of those fan polls from a couple years ago?

I kind of hated Cybertron to be honest (either CG or 2D please, they almost never look good together) But I did really like that Optimus design. I love the cab on its own without the armor more than thevother Optimus, the vehicle actually looks kind of cybertronian compared to the other Siege Optimus. That being said I like the overall look of the first one better... But this one has a fun super mode... I don't know what to get XD

If you paint the armor parts black and white, and slap them on the Ultra Magnus Prime it could make for a cool IDW Nova/Nemisis Prime custom...

On that note am I the only one that wished they used POTP to release figures for Primes that don't have Proper figures like Sentinel and Nova. I didn't expect them to do the Thirteen(they should get there own line that focuses primarily on them and there conflicts, no modern bots). I can't wait to see what else we get in this trilogy. I hope we get war for Cybertron inspired Dinobots at some point, those were probably the best designs they've ever gotten.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Back up a minute, Wasn't Galaxy Force Prime on one of those fan polls from a couple years ago?

As far as I can remember, at least one version of Unicron Trilogy Optimus (the original Armada design I think) was on a poll to see which Convoy would get a new Masterpiece figure, and Star Saber ended up winning. Other than that, I don't remember Cybertron/Galaxy Force Optimus specifically being in a fan poll.

I never owned the original Cybertron Optimus, and I was going to avoid most of the Seige line, but I am impressed with this new Optimus and may even swap out the Power of the Primes Leader for this one on my main Autobot display. It would also be great if that Cybertron Defense Hot Shot from the Hound mould happens at some point, because that's another figure I never had.

starrhero wrote:Has anybody mentioned this possible third pic of Leader Optimus without his armor? It looks almost identical to the IDW comics, as we expected it would.



Edit: Well then, I guess somebody had mentioned the third pic.

Yup! Not in the forums though. I'll add your name in the post since you mentioned it before I wrote the post, but you won't receive a credit.

Munkky wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Back up a minute, Wasn't Galaxy Force Prime on one of those fan polls from a couple years ago?

As far as I can remember, at least one version of Unicron Trilogy Optimus (the original Armada design I think) was on a poll to see which Convoy would get a new Masterpiece figure, and Star Saber ended up winning. Other than that, I don't remember Cybertron/Galaxy Force Optimus specifically being in a fan poll.

I never owned the original Cybertron Optimus, and I was going to avoid most of the Seige line, but I am impressed with this new Optimus and may even swap out the Power of the Primes Leader for this one on my main Autobot display. It would also be great if that Cybertron Defense Hot Shot from the Hound mould happens at some point, because that's another figure I never had.

Yeah the only poll Cybertron Prime was on was the masterpiece one.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Back up a minute, Wasn't Galaxy Force Prime on one of those fan polls from a couple years ago?

Back in 2013... Here are the final results:

11th Fortress Maximus (The Headmasters)
10th Grand Convoy (Superlink/Energon)
9th Lio Convoy (Beast Wars II)
8th Big Convoy (Beast Wars Neo)
7th Galaxy Convoy (Galaxy Force/Cybertron)
6th Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal)
5th Super Fire Convoy (Car Robots/Robots in Disguise)
4th Dai Atlas (Zone)
3rd Super Ginrai (Super God Masterforce)
2nd Micron Densetsu Convoy (Armada)
1st Star Saber (Victory)

I actually have an interesting story to tell. Back when Titans Return started and Powermaster Optimus Prime came out, I wanted CW Magnus, and the Commemorative Series Powermaster Optimus Prime. Since TR Powermaster Optimus Prime was a retool of CW Magnus as, well, Powermaster Optimus Prime, I had the best of both worlds! I ended up getting Ultra Magnus through the discounted Platinum Edition multipack.

Fate repeats here, awesomely enough. I want Siege Ultra Magnus and Cybertron Optimus Prime, and guess what! A retool of Siege Magnus appears as Cybertron Optimus. I mean, like, having an OG Cybertron Optimus Prime would be amazing, this will still be a great substitute, and Cybertron Optimus Primes are expensive. And Siege Magnus I can still get, but I'll wait till a few months from now when it'll eventually go on clearance, assuming I have money at that moment, of course.

It's just interesting how the same thing that happened, like, 3 years ago is happening again.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Back up a minute, Wasn't Galaxy Force Prime on one of those fan polls from a couple years ago?

Back in 2013... Here are the final results:

11th Fortress Maximus (The Headmasters)
10th Grand Convoy (Superlink/Energon)
9th Lio Convoy (Beast Wars II)
8th Big Convoy (Beast Wars Neo)
7th Galaxy Convoy (Galaxy Force/Cybertron)
6th Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal)
5th Super Fire Convoy (Car Robots/Robots in Disguise)
4th Dai Atlas (Zone)
3rd Super Ginrai (Super God Masterforce)
2nd Micron Densetsu Convoy (Armada)
1st Star Saber (Victory)

Thought so, thanks. Kind of defeats the point of the polls if they will take whatever ones they want to from it (albeit not MP). Even six years later I doubt Galaxy Force Prime would have reached higher than 7th today if polled again. In spite of a handful from that list already finding a new toy in the standard and/or MP line.

As Rodimus Prime alluded to earlier, should SIEGE in fact be commemorating the G1 anniversary (as they seem to do every other year ) Wouldn't it be nice if Part Two and Three were commemorative of Other Transformers series? For example, next year is the 20th anniversary of Car Robots/RiD (in Japan) How about that being the basis of WFC Part Two?

I doubt we got Cybertron Prime from that poll

ZeroWolf wrote:I doubt we got Cybertron Prime from that poll

A bit of an extremely random pick otherwise.

Yes, that poll was obviously a first-past-the-post poll, not a ranked-choice poll. And was in point of fact for the MP line anyway.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I doubt we got Cybertron Prime from that poll

A bit of an extremely random pick otherwise.

I think it was a pick they realized they could make work really well with the UM armoring system. Plus Cybertron Prime and his huge guns certainly go nicely with the line.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I doubt we got Cybertron Prime from that poll

A bit of an extremely random pick otherwise.

Why? Wouldn't tooling um vehicle mode to resemble rid um be an odd pick? Giving hound Cybertron defense hot shots head be an odd choice? Warden didn't pick Cybertron Prime because of that poll from so long ago. As to why they choose Cybertron Prime, well they had a cab and armour... So they thought, well what Primes have super armour, and went from there.

Coincidence then. Even though Powermaster Prime and/or Car Robots Prime (Who even incorporates A UM in his design) predate Galaxy Force and lend themselves easier to the same augmentation concept of SIEGE.

Cybertron Prime is a beloved toy and version of Prime across the fandom.

Here's a poll, raise your hand if you think Cybertron Prime is the dopeness!

*hand raised*

I'm still hoping for a Delta magnus from Siege Ultra Magnus

We already had powermaster prime twice (once in TR then take a look at the Transformation of leader op from potp) Car Robots would have been the best choice but Warden probably thought that the homage of um vehicle mode would have been enough (and it saves having to disappoint fans that Prime and um can't combine like in Car Robots)

Cobotron wrote:Cybertron Prime is a beloved toy and version of Prime across the fandom.

Here's a poll, raise your hand if you think Cybertron Prime is the dopeness!

*hand raised*

I want a Black Convoy/Nemesis Prime version....... Hell, I'd actually pay the full price for it.

ZeroWolf wrote:We already had powermaster prime twice (once in TR then take a look at the Transformation of leader op from potp) Car Robots would have been the best choice but Warden probably thought that the homage of um vehicle mode would have been enough (and it saves having to disappoint fans that Prime and um can't combine like in Car Robots)

It goes back to what we were saying before, about how other lines IE Car Robots, Unicron Trilogy would work really well, if not make a more natural fit than G1, to the gimmick of SIEGE.

Fingers crossed they take heed of this with Car Robots 20th anniversary next year.

Cobotron wrote:Cybertron Prime is a beloved toy and version of Prime across the fandom.

Here's a poll, raise your hand if you think Cybertron Prime is the dopeness!

*hand raised*

*raises hand so fast it makes a sonic boom*

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:We already had powermaster prime twice (once in TR then take a look at the Transformation of leader op from potp) Car Robots would have been the best choice but Warden probably thought that the homage of um vehicle mode would have been enough (and it saves having to disappoint fans that Prime and um can't combine like in Car Robots)

It goes back to what we were saying before, about how other lines IE Car Robots, Unicron Trilogy would work really well, if not make a more natural fit than G1, to the gimmick of SIEGE.

Fingers crossed they take heed of this with Car Robots 20th anniversary next year.

Eh.. aside from the Autobot Brothers I think that's more a game for reissues.
Hopefully with better QC than the Encore God Fire Convoy set.

Shredd the Dinobot wrote:On that note am I the only one that wished they used POTP to release figures for Primes that don't have Proper figures like Sentinel and Nova. I didn't expect them to do the Thirteen(they should get there own line that focuses primarily on them and there conflicts, no modern bots). I can't wait to see what else we get in this trilogy. I hope we get war for Cybertron inspired Dinobots at some point, those were probably the best designs they've ever gotten.

Part of the reason I’m so disappointed in PotP was specifically because they didnt have new version of Vector Prime, Nemesis Prime, Sentinal Prime (TR figure notwithstanding).

Cobotron wrote:Cybertron Prime is a beloved toy and version of Prime across the fandom.

Here's a poll, raise your hand if you think Cybertron Prime is the dopeness!

*hand raised*

Intense Hand Raise

I wasn't into collecting during the Cybertron era, and I've always loved the design for Galaxy Convoy, even if it is a bit exessive. (I mean look at those GUNS!) So getting a version of the design is amazing. Not only that, but this came entirely out of left field. Until we knew there was going to be a Leader Prime from UM, almost nobody could have predicted this, not in a million years. I was honestly thinking it was going to be ANOTHER Powermaster Prime.

Needless to say, I'm glad I was wrong.
also, I don't mind not getting the news credit, I was just currious if anybody had already mentioned it and reported it to the news crew.

Here's the real question: Will it be able to do this mode?

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Part of the reason I’m so disappointed in PotP was specifically because they didnt have new version of Vector Prime, Nemesis Prime, Sentinal Prime (TR figure notwithstanding).

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What do you call the Amazon-exclusive PotP Nemesis Prime, then?
Also, the TR Sentinel Prime figure is exactly why there wasn't one in PotP
Frankly, I'm more disappointed by the number of Prime Masters (the guys the line was named for and who were its unifying gimmick) that got relegated to being exclusives with no Decoy Armor.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Part of the reason I’m so disappointed in PotP was specifically because they didnt have new version of Vector Prime, Nemesis Prime, Sentinal Prime (TR figure notwithstanding).

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What do you call the Amazon-exclusive PotP Nemesis Prime, then?

Or the Prime Master, eh?

notirishman wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Part of the reason I’m so disappointed in PotP was specifically because they didnt have new version of Vector Prime, Nemesis Prime, Sentinal Prime (TR figure notwithstanding).

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What do you call the Amazon-exclusive PotP Nemesis Prime, then?

Or the Prime Master, eh?

Nah, the Prime Masters were the Pretenders pulling double duty. As I recall theirbsculpts were closer to the Pretender Inner Robots. Those dont count in my book.

starrhero wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Cybertron Prime is a beloved toy and version of Prime across the fandom.

Here's a poll, raise your hand if you think Cybertron Prime is the dopeness!

*hand raised*

Intense Hand Raise

I wasn't into collecting during the Cybertron era, and I've always loved the design for Galaxy Convoy, even if it is a bit exessive. (I mean look at those GUNS!) So getting a version of the design is amazing. Not only that, but this came entirely out of left field. Until we knew there was going to be a Leader Prime from UM, almost nobody could have predicted this, not in a million years. I was honestly thinking it was going to be ANOTHER Powermaster Prime.

Needless to say, I'm glad I was wrong.
also, I don't mind not getting the news credit, I was just currious if anybody had already mentioned it and reported it to the news crew.

If you sre ever interested in circling back around, track down the Cyb Crosswise mold. In my top 3 favorite toys even still. Transformatiin is somewhat intricate but not hard, the deployable missile launcehers in both modes are cool without being obtrusive, and its got a cool integrated shield, plus a gun thst can also serve as a jetpack. And it looks sick in black with the turquise clear.

Caelus wrote:So, I'm trying to weaponize alternate modes... not sure I'm really doing it 'right'.

Looks cool to me. Nice new smokestacks, a rocket engine and more firepower. You did it absolutely RIGHT

starrhero wrote:Has anybody mentioned this possible third pic of Leader Optimus without his armor? It looks almost identical to the IDW comics, as we expected it would.



Edit: Well then, I guess somebody had mentioned the third pic.

So the arm kibble isn't detachable? I thought it would partsform. So either it DOES and is part of the "small alt mode" so he has less chunk in the trunk than UM or it doesn't and ends up as fake parts at the back of the tractor's cabine.

I'm glad we got a (leaked) pic for the Siege Leader Optimus but that inner robot isn't very exciting because we've seen it before via the IDW cover. I want to see the armor and big guns!

ZeroWolf wrote:I doubt we got Cybertron Prime from that poll

We didnt, that was a poll by takara to determine an MP for the japanese market. None of that is in play here. Hasbro already told us they want a leader prime on the shelves. They did PMOP, G1 with evolution, this is just another big Prime they can put on shelves in the gen line that they didnt do yet.

Its definitely dope that they are doing this for UT fans. It is a cool design.

Even with the simplified and smaller designs, I'd get super excited for an updated Super Fire Convoy, even if he didn't combine with a Magnus.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Here's the real question: Will it be able to do this mode?

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Part of the reason I’m so disappointed in PotP was specifically because they didnt have new version of Vector Prime, Nemesis Prime, Sentinal Prime (TR figure notwithstanding).

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What do you call the Amazon-exclusive PotP Nemesis Prime, then?
Also, the TR Sentinel Prime figure is exactly why there wasn't one in PotP
Frankly, I'm more disappointed by the number of Prime Masters (the guys the line was named for and who were its unifying gimmick) that got relegated to being exclusives with no Decoy Armor.

I forgot about this flight mode, such a great toy.

Let's face it. They probably picked the Cybertron OP design over all other non-G1 Optimus Prime designs that have Super Modes because the Cybertron one looks the closest to an upgraded form of G1 Optimus Prime.

Sabrblade wrote:Let's face it. They probably picked the Cybertron OP design over all other non-G1 Optimus Prime designs that have Super Modes because the Cybertron one looks the closest to an upgraded form of G1 Optimus Prime.

I read a joke somewhere, Hasbro was making a Cybertronian Otpimus Prime in his super mode, so they did a google search for cybertron optimus super mode and got this design right away

notirishman wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Part of the reason I’m so disappointed in PotP was specifically because they didnt have new version of Vector Prime, Nemesis Prime, Sentinal Prime (TR figure notwithstanding).

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What do you call the Amazon-exclusive PotP Nemesis Prime, then?

Or the Prime Master, eh?

Gah, okay jeez, yes, Nemesis Prime was made. I was specifically referring to Nova Prime, the White scary dude from IDW. My bad.

And I know Sentinal didn’t get a toy in PotP because of his TR toy, but come on.. If there was ever a time to give us awesome, original toy designs for the Primes, it was Power of the Primes.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

notirishman wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Part of the reason I’m so disappointed in PotP was specifically because they didnt have new version of Vector Prime, Nemesis Prime, Sentinal Prime (TR figure notwithstanding).

...
What do you call the Amazon-exclusive PotP Nemesis Prime, then?

Or the Prime Master, eh?

Gah, okay jeez, yes, Nemesis Prime was made. I was specifically referring to Nova Prime, the White scary dude from IDW. My bad.

And I know Sentinal didn’t get a toy in PotP because of his TR toy, but come on.. If there was ever a time to give us awesome, original toy designs for the Primes, it was Power of the Primes.

I'm with you on both counts. PotP was the perfect opportunity to give the rest of the Primes full fledged figures, but we got Titan Master proxies instead. And they had designs for Prima and Megatronus as remolds of Black Shadow.
And I too would love to see this new Leader Prime done up as IDW Nemesis.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

notirishman wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Part of the reason I’m so disappointed in PotP was specifically because they didnt have new version of Vector Prime, Nemesis Prime, Sentinal Prime (TR figure notwithstanding).

...
What do you call the Amazon-exclusive PotP Nemesis Prime, then?

Or the Prime Master, eh?

Gah, okay jeez, yes, Nemesis Prime was made. I was specifically referring to Nova Prime, the White scary dude from IDW. My bad.

And I know Sentinal didn’t get a toy in PotP because of his TR toy, but come on.. If there was ever a time to give us awesome, original toy designs for the Primes, it was Power of the Primes.

Not the kind of Primes Hasbro had in mind. There is a difference between the god-like Original 13 (of which Alpha Trion has a representation in TR and PotP, and via Legends CW as well), and the Autobot Supreme Commanders who carry the Matrix. But that's for a different thread.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Let's face it. They probably picked the Cybertron OP design over all other non-G1 Optimus Prime designs that have Super Modes because the Cybertron one looks the closest to an upgraded form of G1 Optimus Prime.

I read a joke somewhere, Hasbro was making a Cybertronian Otpimus Prime in his super mode, so they did a google search for cybertron optimus super mode and got this design right away

Sadly, that may actually be true (AoE Strafe can tell you why...). Doesn't matter, the toy turned out looking pretty nice.

Hammer time!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Not the kind of Primes Hasbro had in mind. There is a difference between the god-like Original 13

And in any case, fiction wise now we know that was all alie and the 13 primes were not godlike at all.

Yes, he can deal with that now.

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Not the kind of Primes Hasbro had in mind. There is a difference between the god-like Original 13

And in any case, fiction wise now we know that was all alie and the 13 primes were not godlike at all.

Only in the previous IDW continuity, yes.
That doesn't apply to everything else.

Manterax Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Not the kind of Primes Hasbro had in mind. There is a difference between the god-like Original 13

And in any case, fiction wise now we know that was all alie and the 13 primes were not godlike at all.

Only in the previous IDW continuity, yes.
That doesn't apply to everything else.

But what else is there? The 13 primes werent in G1. IDW was G1 themed and expanded on what aligned had, bringing the 13 primes to a G1 type continuity, and then removed their legitimacy. Generations is G1 (and thus partly IDW) themed. So any notion of the 13 primes within the generations line is from this now debunked notion.

william-james88 wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Not the kind of Primes Hasbro had in mind. There is a difference between the god-like Original 13

And in any case, fiction wise now we know that was all alie and the 13 primes were not godlike at all.

Only in the previous IDW continuity, yes.
That doesn't apply to everything else.

But what else is there? The 13 primes werent in G1. IDW was G1 themed and expanded on what aligned had, bringing the 13 primes to a G1 type continuity, and then removed their legitimacy. Generations is G1 (and thus partly IDW) themed. So any notion of the 13 primes within the generations line is from this now debunked notion.

I love IDW but it doesn't make sense to say that what happened in that continuity debunks the mythology of another continuity.

If nothing else, FunPub's stories already established that the nature of the Primes can vary between universes (e.g., Shattered Glass Alpha Trion).

And within IDW, Shockwave's time-traveling shenanigans don't rule out the existence of a real 13 before the point he traveled to in the past. If I traveled back in time 2000 years and told everyone I was Jesus, it wouldn't disprove the premise of Christianity.

william-james88 wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Not the kind of Primes Hasbro had in mind. There is a difference between the god-like Original 13

And in any case, fiction wise now we know that was all alie and the 13 primes were not godlike at all.

Only in the previous IDW continuity, yes.
That doesn't apply to everything else.

But what else is there? The 13 primes werent in G1. IDW was G1 themed and expanded on what aligned had, bringing the 13 primes to a G1 type continuity, and then removed their legitimacy. Generations is G1 (and thus partly IDW) themed. So any notion of the 13 primes within the generations line is from this now debunked notion.

Generations is not G1.
And a quick trip to TFWiki will answer your question.
The godlike 13 do exist in other continuities, just not the most recent IDW one.

Manterax Prime wrote:Generations is not G1.
And a quick trip to TFWiki will answer your question.

TFwiki said that Generations is G1

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Prime_(G1)/toys

william-james88 wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:Generations is not G1.
And a quick trip to TFWiki will answer your question.

TFwiki said that Generations is G1

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Prime_(G1)/toys

Because toylines and the continuities they're associated with always match up right?

Oh, wait. They don't. Beast Hunters taught us that. Show and toyline diverged at that point.
Hell, most of the Prime Wars Trilogy was toy only stuff with no matching storyline to back it up. The comics and Machinima series varied greatly in what they chose to use.

william-james88 wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Not the kind of Primes Hasbro had in mind. There is a difference between the god-like Original 13

And in any case, fiction wise now we know that was all alie and the 13 primes were not godlike at all.

Only in the previous IDW continuity, yes.
That doesn't apply to everything else.

But what else is there? The 13 primes werent in G1. IDW was G1 themed and expanded on what aligned had, bringing the 13 primes to a G1 type continuity, and then removed their legitimacy. Generations is G1 (and thus partly IDW) themed. So any notion of the 13 primes within the generations line is from this now debunked notion.

Hey Will.
Hey Will.
First off, Generations does draw from more than G1.
But mainly.
One word:

DREAMWAVE

The Dreamwave G1 comics are what introduced the 13 Original Transformers concept in the first place! And the idea of them being demigods (although there were already seeds of that with the Liege Maximo in G2)! And it is sure as hell borne out in that continuity with how powerful the Fallen was!

IDW may have trod roughshod over the idea of their great power as part of its "SHOCKWAVE AMSES TEH ULT!m473 mast3rmind!!!11!" crap, but other continuities (like the one that introduced them, the Aligned family, the Unicron Trilogy, etc) have had more respect.

But wow, talk about an epic brainfart XD. I mean sure, they weren't all identified in G1 material originally. But it was a G1 comic series that introduced the idea along with the group's Judas!

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

notirishman wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Part of the reason I’m so disappointed in PotP was specifically because they didnt have new version of Vector Prime, Nemesis Prime, Sentinal Prime (TR figure notwithstanding).

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What do you call the Amazon-exclusive PotP Nemesis Prime, then?

Or the Prime Master, eh?

Gah, okay jeez, yes, Nemesis Prime was made. I was specifically referring to Nova Prime, the White scary dude from IDW. My bad.

You should have said Nova Prime then. When you say "Nemesis Prime", most people think "Evil Black Repaint of Optimus Prime" and maybe "Quintessa-Brainwashed Movieverse Optimus Prime". Not "IDW-only white Prime who was only sometimes known as Nemesis"

And I know Sentinal didn’t get a toy in PotP because of his TR toy, but come on.. If there was ever a time to give us awesome, original toy designs for the Primes, it was Power of the Primes.[/quote]
Power of the Primes as in the 13 Original Transformers, as in Titan Master-style figures that act as super-deluxe Energon Stars that channel the power of said 13 Original Transformers.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:And I know Sentinal didn’t get a toy in PotP because of his TR toy, but come on.. If there was ever a time to give us awesome, original toy designs for the Primes, it was Power of the Primes.

Power of the Primes as in the 13 Original Transformers, as in Titan Master-style figures that act as super-deluxe Energon Stars that channel the power of said 13 Original Transformers.

The Prime Masters were lame.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:And I know Sentinal didn’t get a toy in PotP because of his TR toy, but come on.. If there was ever a time to give us awesome, original toy designs for the Primes, it was Power of the Primes.

Power of the Primes as in the 13 Original Transformers, as in Titan Master-style figures that act as super-deluxe Energon Stars that channel the power of said 13 Original Transformers.

The Prime Masters were lame.

Sadly that was the only way they were going to handle the 13 as its far easier then working with some of the designs of the 13...plus how they would break down in class sizings, for marketing they would need to assign factions...Not to mention they would still need recognisable characters in said toyline, taking away available size slots...basically it wasn't going to happen in a years toyline. They compromised with the Prime masters which let them homage the pretenders to boot. I mean how many of us thought that the pretenders would ever see the light of day again (outside of bot mode references)

Best bet for the original 13 is if hasbro plan a whole trilogy around them and then release 4 a year in Voyager and leader Class (or deluxe and voyager... More space in those slots)

Lets be honest here, they don't even homage all of G1 (at any time). So unless you want the 13 to be palette swaps of Optimus Prime, which they will happily do and it would (bizarrely) sell, the chances of them all getting an independent figure in any line are slim to zero.

From what ive seen on interior Optimus Leader class his homage is a bit of a hybrid on robot mode, those smokestack guns from his arms from Armada while his head is from Fall of Cybertron and the rest of his body are G1.


HOMAGECEPTION?

ZeroWolf wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:And I know Sentinal didn’t get a toy in PotP because of his TR toy, but come on.. If there was ever a time to give us awesome, original toy designs for the Primes, it was Power of the Primes.

Power of the Primes as in the 13 Original Transformers, as in Titan Master-style figures that act as super-deluxe Energon Stars that channel the power of said 13 Original Transformers.

The Prime Masters were lame.

Sadly that was the only way they were going to handle the 13 as its far easier then working with some of the designs of the 13...plus how they would break down in class sizings, for marketing they would need to assign factions...Not to mention they would still need recognisable characters in said toyline, taking away available size slots...basically it wasn't going to happen in a years toyline. They compromised with the Prime masters which let them homage the pretenders to boot. I mean how many of us thought that the pretenders would ever see the light of day again (outside of bot mode references)

Best bet for the original 13 is if hasbro plan a whole trilogy around them and then release 4 a year in Voyager and leader Class (or deluxe and voyager... More space in those slots)

I'm possible now, maybe, but not necessarily if they'd been running on the scale of Titans Return,

Nexus Prime would be a combiner, so he markets as four deluxes, a voyager, and maybe a scout too, spreading out size-classes. Amalgamous would be a leader to allow maximum alt-modes. Prima, Megatronus, Onyx, and Optimus would be Voyager class, Solus, Quintus, Maximo would be deluxe class. Micronus would get packed in with Amalgamous. Alpha Trion and Vector Prime could have been rereleased or retooled as store exclusives since they already have good molds. And you can double-dip on molds. Nexus Prime would have a box-set rereleased in blue and red. Megatronus would have a repaint as the Fallen. Optimus as Nemesis Prime. Then fill out the line with minor Primes or Prime-adjacent characters like Nova, Zeta, Sentinel, Rodimus, Primal, Thunderwing, and maybe new takes on Cybertron Evac, Scourge, and Overdrive, or homages to characters like Lio Convoy. The $5 class would be filled with Minions that become parts of primal relics like the Requiem Blaster.