WEBVTT MADISON STREET. A YEAR AGO, HE RAN ON THE FRONT HALF OF THIS RACE, STRIDE FOR STRIDE WITH THE MAN WHO FINISHED SECOND AND TYLER MUSE FELL OFF THE PACE. DAVE IS OUR GUEST. AS YOU WATCH TYLER A YEAR REMOVED, WHAT HAS CHANGED IN HIS APPROACH? DAVE: HE TOLD ME HE WAS GOING TO BE A LOT MORE CONSERVATIVE EARLY ON. BOTH OF US WERE AGGRESSIVE IN THE FIRST HALF LAST YEAR. IT LOOKS LIKE HE HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF THAT BUT HE IS ON THE HARDEST PART. GERRY: THERE IS NOBODY WITHIN A MINUTE OF HIM. IS IT JUST A FUNCTION OF TIME? THERE IS NOBODY TO CARRY YOU. HOW DO YOU SET THE PACE? GERRY: IT LOOKS LIKE -- >> IT LOOKS LIKE HE HAS A GPS WATCH AND IS CHECKING HIS PACE ON IT. HE KEEPS LOOKING AT IT. I THINK THAT IS WHAT HE IS DOING, TRYING TO STAY WITHIN A CERTAIN MINUTES PER MILE PACE. GERRY: PSYCHOLOGICALLY AND STRATEGICALLY, THIS IS THE UPHILL PORTION. THOSE FIVE MILES, IT IS A SOLID INCLINE. HOW DEMANDING IS THAT? >> IT IS REALLY HARD. IT IS AT A ROUGH PART OF THE RACE. IT IS PRETTY MUCH UPHILL. KATE: EXPOSED, YOU FEEL THE WIND. >> LAKE MONTEBELLO WILL BE WINDY AS WELL. KATE: JULIAN ROMAN DO FALL IS NOT THAT FAR BEHIND HIM -- DO FALL -- DUVAL IS NOT THAT FAR BEHIND HIM. SHE IS JUST ABOUT TWO MILES BEHIND. >> SHE HAS RUN 2 40’S -- 2:40 BEFORE. I KNOW SHE IS NOT TRYING TO COME UP TODAY -- TRYING TO, TODAY. GERRY: AT WHAT POINT IN THE RACE DOES YOUR MIND SHIFT FROM IM GOING TO WIN THIS TO GOING AFTER PR -- I’M GOING TO WIN THIS TO GOING AFTER PR? >> OVER THAT LAST 10K, SO AFTER MONTEBELLO. KATE: I DID WANT TO SAY, SO JULIA TOLD ME SHE HAS HER OWN PACE AND TRAINING PARTNER AND SHE IS WITH THE HOWARD COUNTY STRIDERS. >> HER TRAINING PARTNER IS OUT THERE WITH HER, HELPING OUT. KATE: AND THERE ARE PACERS ALL THROUGH THE RACE TO HELP, WHATEVER YOUR TIME MAY BE, WHETHER YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A THAT IS A BENCHMARK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. THAT IS A SOLID AVERAGE RUN OUR FOR YOUR THIRD -- FOR YOUR FIRST MARATHON. THEY HAVE PACERS LOOK -- PACERS ALONG THE COURSE TO HELP YOU. GERRY: OVER THE COURSE OF 26.2 MILES, WHETHER YOU ARE RUNNING A DAN TIME OR -- A DAVE TIME OR OVERTIME, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT? >> GET THROUGH ONE MILE AT A TIME. IF YOU START THINKING ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU HAVE LEFT, IT GETS ROUGH. GETTING THROUGH ONE MILE AT A TIME, THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE DO. I AM ONLY OUT THERE FOR TWO AND A HALF HOURS WHEN I RUN. THE PEOPLE WHO RUN FOR FORWARD A HALF HOURS PLUS, IT IS TOUGH. KATE: WALK OUT YOUR FRONT DOOR AND CHEER SOMEBODY O