Neoseeker : News : NVIDIA announces RTX 2080 and 2080 Ti, available September 20 for $799
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Shadow of Death Aug 20, 18
Well, the real selling point of the new Turing GPUs (beyond the general boost to specs of course) is the boost to ray tracing ability, boasting about 10x better capability over Pascal architecture.

Still, this is odd, yeah? The Ti line usually comes out about a year after the initial run, no?
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MidnightXS Aug 20, 18
quote Shadow of Death
Still, this is odd, yeah? The Ti line usually comes out about a year after the initial run, no?
Correct. Though I was looking for a GPU to go with my 1080Ti and this is just perfect timing, so I'm happy about it.
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BlackLabel Aug 20, 18
quote Shadow of Death
Well, the real selling point of the new Turing GPUs (beyond the general boost to specs of course) is the boost to ray tracing ability, boasting about 10x better capability over Pascal architecture.

Still, this is odd, yeah? The Ti line usually comes out about a year after the initial run, no?
Would not surprise me if Nvidia are reverting back to a yearly release cycle for their GPU's. I mean they had no reason to update GPU's in the last 5 years as CUDA core counts have stagnated, die shrinks have slowed and ultimately GPU launches slowed. Now though? They have Tensor cores and Raytracing to push heavily so I wouldn't be surprised if this time next year the RTX 3080/3080Ti are out.
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hbn Aug 20, 18
Does the R stand for Ray-trace? Why change the GTX name? Also strange to see a Ti version since they usually leave that for fine tuning. Might be time to look at trading in my 1060? Depends on the budget since I kinda want a new keyboard and I'd get more gains from CPU/RAM/Mobo upgrades as they're the bottleneck rn.
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Solodolo Aug 20, 18
There are zero actual benchmarks. Only ones show a GTX 2070 beating a 1080 Ti with ray tracing. In terms of FPS and benchmarks Im thinking that it wont be great at all.
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MidnightXS Aug 20, 18
quote Solodolo
There are zero actual benchmarks. Only ones show a GTX 2070 beating a 1080 Ti with ray tracing. In terms of FPS and benchmarks Im thinking that it wont be great at all.
Exactly what I'm waiting for. But I'm in the market for a second GPU so regardless I may as well go with one that both helps my workflow and supports future tech and features.
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Solodolo Aug 20, 18
quote MidnightXS
quote Solodolo
There are zero actual benchmarks. Only ones show a GTX 2070 beating a 1080 Ti with ray tracing. In terms of FPS and benchmarks Im thinking that it wont be great at all.
Exactly what I'm waiting for. But I'm in the market for a second GPU so regardless I may as well go with one that both helps my workflow and supports future tech and features.
Yep. Those who are foolish with money usually buy no matter what.

I dont believe the 2070 is that much more powerful than a 1070. In fact I believe they might be 10% more powerful than their previous generation. They can just use ray tracing which is cool and all but not needed.

If the 2080 Ti is only around 1080 Ti performance, than it is a complete waste of money. To justify the almost double price, they would need to at least have a 50% increase.
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ChiroVette Aug 21, 18
quote Solodolo
If the 2080 Ti is only around 1080 Ti performance, than it is a complete waste of money. To justify the almost double price, they would need to at least have a 50% increase.
I don't get this either. What is the point of releasing the next gen of GPU's, raising the price, and then having similar performance as the high end previous gen? I read this, too on a site, and assumed I misread it. There must me something here I am missing. Unless there is some untapped potential in the 2080 that will be available later on and just cannot be utilized yet or something?

Also, I assume since these are going to be Founder's Editions at launch, it would probably be best, whatever card one is interested in, to wait for all the aftermarket cards by EVGA, MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte, and everyone else and their brother to launch their versions.

Edit: I just read more, and it looks like there is a marked increase in technology of the new line, even if technically it is only marginally more powerful than the 1080 ti.
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Solodolo Aug 21, 18
quote ChiroVette
quote Solodolo
If the 2080 Ti is only around 1080 Ti performance, than it is a complete waste of money. To justify the almost double price, they would need to at least have a 50% increase.
I don't get this either. What is the point of releasing the next gen of GPU's, raising the price, and then having similar performance as the high end previous gen? I read this, too on a site, and assumed I misread it. There must me something here I am missing. Unless there is some untapped potential in the 2080 that will be available later on and just cannot be utilized yet or something?

Also, I assume since these are going to be Founder's Editions at launch, it would probably be best, whatever card one is interested in, to wait for all the aftermarket cards by EVGA, MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte, and everyone else and their brother to launch their versions.

Edit: I just read more, and it looks like there is a marked increase in technology of the new line, even if technically it is only marginally more powerful than the 1080 ti.
Yep, its the die change and all the new Ray Tracing tech adding to higher costs to produce.

Dont get me wrong, Ray Tracing is neat and might become the standard. But is new tech. It also is not widely supported. Consoles usually set the stage for what games will include. If AMD does not include Ray Tracing in the new consoles its just a waste for now.

I think the GTX 2080 Ti will be faster than the 1080 Ti without Ray Tracing but by maybe 20%. Making it one of the worse deals for a GPU.
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ChiroVette Aug 21, 18
quote Solodolo
I think the GTX 2080 Ti will be faster than the 1080 Ti without Ray Tracing but by maybe 20%. Making it one of the worse deals for a GPU.
I agree, which might make a good case for either waiting a month or so for the aftermarket cards, which will surely be cheaper and probably better, or simply waiting the same amount of time and snagging a 1080ti on the cheap.
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Solodolo Aug 21, 18
quote ChiroVette
quote Solodolo
I think the GTX 2080 Ti will be faster than the 1080 Ti without Ray Tracing but by maybe 20%. Making it one of the worse deals for a GPU.
I agree, which might make a good case for either waiting a month or so for the aftermarket cards, which will surely be cheaper and probably better, or simply waiting the same amount of time and snagging a 1080ti on the cheap.
Yep. I actually just bought an EVGA GTX 1080 Ti for $650. If it turns out the RTX 2080 is significantly better, I can use the step up program within 90 days.
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hbn Aug 22, 18
I'm just wondering what impact ray-tracing will have in games because it isn't really suited for them iirc. Or does it make it worth exploring for game development since it requires a large amount of processing power and in recent years the graphics card has been taking some more overhead for physics computing (with things like CUDA, PhysX and Hairworks, and AMDs counter technology). I'm aware that graphics cards are still getting more powerful, (Moore's Law is still valid for the time being after all) but the demands of games are also increasing... and not always in line with GPU improvements.

I expect ray tracing right now won't be seen on many new games for awhile TBH. Depends on if developers will see a limited technology being worth implementing.

Depending on how much the 20xx improves on the 10xx I might try to budget an upgrade into it, but the most noticeable upgrade I will make for now is a CPU upgrade, since I'm still running a Phenom II X4. GPU upgrades will bottleneck my system even more than it already is right now.
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Shadow of Death Aug 22, 18
hbn - It'll probably be like Tesselation. Not every game has it, but it's nice to have when it's offered. It'll probably be a more common feature in future big budget games as ray-tracing becomes more easily handled by GPUs and you start finding it on mid-tier (and eventually entry level) gaming GPUs.
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SuperSaiyanGod Aug 22, 18
Lol i'd love two RTX 2080 ti's, but....too early, too expensive...
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