Republican health plan in peril as 22 mil set to lose coverage

Lots of winning happening. So much so that I'm getting tired of it.

The richest 1%, whom the Republicans represent, will get a nice tax cut if this bill passes. They couldn't care less about an extra 22 million uninsured poor people.

In rural china, away from the dazzling mega cities and ferraris, even the poorest minorities have rights to get free electricity and basic healthcare.

At least you can keep you can keep your doctor. Ha ha! - just kidding - you will have no doctor.

It is absolutely shameful what the Republican majority has been doing to healthcare. For something as large as healthcare, which affects one fifth of the entire economy, rather than having any kind of meaningful dialogue with everyone involved, they decide to just meet together in a back room to figure out just what deals their base wants to hear rather than do anything useful for the country. Hopefully they all get voted out this next go around to make way for people who actually know how to govern.

"The Senate bill would increase the number of people who are uninsured by 22 million in 2026 relative to the number under current law," the CBO said in its much-anticipated report.

The estimated increase in the number of uninsured under the bill that passed the House of Representatives last month was 23 million.

Trump called that House bill "mean"

Republicans are majority in Congress and have the presidency. Pass or not Republicans own state of healthcare going forward. It's Republicare.

Just going in circles at this point, the incompetence of these morons is mind boggling

Just going in circles at this point, the incompetence of these morons is mind boggling

I don't doubt the incompetence, but the just the sheer length of the tragic saga of US healthcare leads me to think it's something more.

There are those who think the underprivileged deserve to die.

The ACA is collapsing. Something has to be done. Under the ACA, my state has 2 providers left in 2017. Next year, if the ACA continues, there will be 1 or zero. What then?

If we throw 30 million off of healthcare, will my premiums be lower? How about 40 million? Will that drop my taxes?

Both healthcare plans are wrong. Obama/Dems for bringing in millions of uninsured on the backs of the middle class. Trump/Rep, for throwing them back off.

Big insurance, Big Pharma and Big medical rule the day. Dems, Reps and the people are just pawns in their game.

single payer is the answer. Won't happen though until the globalist/MIC hedgomons are guillotined.

Paul, Cruz, Lee, and Johnson are against this bill because it doesn't cut enough people off Medicaid. Never mind that most of those people are the elderly, children, and expecting mothers. The party of family values indeed. Maybe those seniors, kids, and pregnant women need to get off their rears, stop depending on the state, and start working in finance. All hail, Ayn Rand!

Collins, meanwhile, understands more viscerally what a this bill really means. Her constituents will vote her out if she signs, and rightfully so. The con cooked up by the Kochs and fellow travelers to screw and disempower the middle class (and get them to blame it on liberals) hasn't taken root in Maine the way it has in other parts of the U.S., particularly the South, where anti-intellectualism and fear of the other has deeper roots.

The fact that the GOP leadership would try to pull this over on their own base makes one wonder what the four-letter-word these evildoers are up to. And it will only continue, I'm afraid.

The whole "Obamacare" was the only thing the GOP senate/congress would allow to get through.  Obama did try to encourage the GOP to set up a National healthcare system like Canada, UK, France etc, but the GOP pushed up the rhetoric that it was too "commie".   So the ACA was the only thing they allowed to pass, and then tried to blame their political adversaries for it. Truth is, the GOP owns the ACA, because they refused to support a national healthcare system.  Why?  Same as always, catering to the folks who like financial profit over US citizens basic health needs.

I kinda half hope the GOP gets away with it - those most hurt will be their constituents.

Both healthcare plans are wrong.

That's not true. ObamaCare (ACA) included the Public Option since single payer is the answer. But because of the hatred towards Obama because of him being guilty of BPWB (Being President While Black) they (the white bitter Republicans) could not accept it and because of these Republicans the Public Option bit the dust. Great political work Republicans!!

Won't happen though

It would be happening now if there wasn't so much hatred towards Obama/Hillary. Politics based on hate brings more misery (including to you Trump followers- this is mostly on you) and this is all on the Republicans. And Trump followers voted based hate and revenge. They hate everything that Obama/Hillary did or would have done and because of that hate suffering will continue.

and got real news. Obamacare caused more than 22 million to lose their insurance, not that the media, will admit it, So even if this happens, the net result us 30 million who lost it under Obamacare, will get their insurance back, for a net gain. Bottom line though is, 22, 30 million this is less than 10% of the population and this 10% never had insurance. they didn't, before or, after obamacare and they still won't have it. on the plus, side, 90% of the population who saw, deductibles triple, premiums, go up, will actually see these drop again. only total moron socialists think taxing 300 million people in the name of, 22 million to get 20 times more than they need to line government pockets is, a good idea, that is obamacare, may even be, Republican care, proving all of it should be junked.

The same people who threw a hissy fit about Obamacare "being crammed down our throats" over several months of debate including open and closed sessions are now trying to get a healthcare bill rushed through the Senate in a week with no public debate.

and got real news.

Yes, same place as the source for Hillary's pedophile ring at the pizza joint. We believe those two stories just the same. Again, you guys didn't want the Public Option since KEEP YOUR GOVERNMENT HANDS OFF MY MEDICARE. Thanks bitter old people.

The GOP have to face the fact that they simply can't come up with a better health care bill than the Obama administration did. The ACA isn't perfect but it's miles better than what the dodgy GOP can come up with.

The problem is Obama was a Republican idea since Nixon. The (Mostly white and cloned) Republicans can't stand a black man stole the idea from Nixon.

only total moron socialists think taxing 300 million people

So what's Medicare. Again, the main problem is these old folk KEEP YOUR GOVERNMENT HANDS OFF MY MEDICARE. You are paying Medicare tax now.

Oh my...

Juan Williams Throws a Fit Over The Senate HC Bill Jesse Watters & Greg Gutfeld Put Him In Time Out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U-o1aJqNG0

Round and round we go

keep up the Dem/Rep game

cause it's just so easy to blame

its big insurance, pharma and med who make the rules

the Dems and reps just take the lobby money like fools

and the MSM are the tools, of those rules, for the fools.

That's not true.

OH yes it is.

By last week, it became clear that Obama and his allies in Congress will use their legislative leverage to prevent even a debate about single payer. Here’s the Associated Press: “Baucus and many others, including President Barack Obama, say single-payer is not practical or politically feasible.”

Obama 2006

Has there ever been an administration as selfish and greedy as this one??

its big insurance, pharma and med who make the rules

Are you sure? Do you live in Japan?

The same people who threw a hissy fit about Obamacare "being crammed down our throats" 

Didn't you think it was ok when Obama did it? Republicans are trying to use the same tactics as Dems - isn't that a good thing?

Paul, Cruz, Lee, and Johnson are against this bill because it doesn't cut enough people off Medicaid. Never mind that most of those people are the elderly, children, and expecting mothers. 

Where did you get this talking point - the DNC? MSNBC? The elderly have Medicare. Children and the indigent poor have Medicaid. Obama expanded Medicaid to include able bodied working age adults. These people threaten the solvency of the program for all. Perhaps the able bodied could be offered a catastrophic plan in which they are required to pay something for. Even in Japan the health care system requires people to pay into the system. How much debt is enough?

"Trumpcare will lead to higher costs and less care, and will lead to tens of millions of Americans without insurance," he added.

"Make America great Again", yeah only for them!...Like an air balloon, this administration is dropping unnecessary "poor" weight to reach higher altitude.

WolfpackToday  01:10 am JST

Didn't you think it was ok when Obama did it? Republicans are trying to use the same tactics as Dems - isn't that a good thing?

Uh-oh! Did someone forget the difference between several months of mostly open Obamacare debate and one week of closed Trumpcare debate?

Obama expanded Medicaid to include able bodied working age adults.

The Republicans didn't want the public option. Blame them...

Didn't you think it was ok when Obama did it? Republicans are trying to use the same tactics as Dems - isn't that a good thing?

I'm not happy with either party doing this, but truth be told, had the Democrats, Gruber and Emanuel NOT gotten greedy and trying to take over the entire healthcare industry and just fix the system for the people that didn't have health insurance, I would have been all for it, but after this and now what the GOP are trying to do. Yeah, I get it, you have to amputate the leg if you want to survive, but now that the Dems put us in this mess to begin with and the right are trying to keep the costs down, but small segment will lose coverage. The whole thing is a mess.

The Republicans didn't want the public option. Blame them...

Nor should they, EVER.

and just fix the system for the people that didn't have health insurance

Can you be specific? How should they be insured?

The repubs are in power now. They can undo all of Obamacare if they want to, so I'm not sure how blaming him for the GOP plan is logical.

Can you be specific? How should they be insured?

Let the government figure it out how to deal with those people.

Let the government figure it out how to deal with those people.

How about if they just don't pay? Go to the ER then refuse to give their social security number so their credit does not go bad? Make sure to get a PO box for any bills (to ignore). That's what I would do. When you go back to the US do you often use your Medicare?

When you go back to the US do you often use your Medicare?

Medicare? Lol! Not that old homie and no, I pay cash every time.

I pay cash every time.

Yes, the Medicare deductible just like I pay it in Japan in cash. I understand that.

Not that old homie

so as you have said the Medicare system is similar what what Japan does. They pay and you have to pay a certain percentage. It works well for you in the US so why not Medicare for all?

Yes, the Medicare deductible just like I pay it in Japan in cash. I understand that.

No, I pay for everything, all expenses, cash only whatever the cost, I don't have insurance.

No, I pay for everything, all expenses, cash only whatever the cost, I don't have insurance.

Yes, you pay for other people who don't pay. You overpay. But why pay at all? Just go back to Japan? You get the same quality of care no matter what. Why bother?

You get the same quality of care no matter what. Why bother?

I don't, I just pay for each treatment, I don't care about the cost. It's not the same, depends.

I just pay for each treatment

What do you think of Japan's medical system? Would you trust it in case you required a life-saving heart bypass suddenly, for example? A type of emergency procedure that you could not wait for even if you had your private jet waiting for you to race you to the UCLA medical center? What say you?