“Fawzi Haffar, trustee of the Manchester Islamic Centre in Didsbury, where Salman Abedi, the Manchester Arena bomber, is understood to have prayed, said: ‘We are concerned about reports we are receiving about anti-Muslim acts. These are terrible anti-Muslim acts ranging from verbal abuse to acts of criminal damage to mosques in the area and outside the area. We do encourage any incidents to be reported as a hate crime.’”
Terrible anti-Muslim acts: verbal abuse! Criminal damage to mosques!
Twenty-two people are dead and fifty-nine wounded at the hands of an Islamic jihadist from Manchester. Verbal abuse! Criminal damage to mosques!
If there really was any actual criminal damage to a mosque, police should investigate. Meanwhile, let’s try to regain some sense of perspective: twenty-two people have been murdered, and instead of vowing to make sure that no one in the Islamic community in Manchester ever again gets the idea that murdering Infidels is a meritorious act, the Muslim leaders in Manchester are whining about people saying rude things to them.
And even those claims have to be regarded with extreme skepticism. So very many anti-Muslim hate crimes turn out to have been faked by Muslims in order to deflect attention away from jihad terror or for other reasons, that no one should take what the Manchester Muslim leaders are saying here at face value. But the British government and media will, of course, do so.
“We’re sick of having to apologise and being the first to condemn it. What more can we do? Tell me what more can we do?”
Easy: implement transparent, honest, inspectable programs in mosques and Islamic schools teaching Muslims to reject and abhor the version of Islam taught by the Islamic State, al-Qaeda, and other jihad groups. Teach against the aspects of Sharia that are incompatible with British law and Western understandings of human rights. Cooperate with anti-terror efforts instead of whining about “Islamophobia.” Be more upset about 22 people killed in the name of Islam and in accord with its teachings than about some unspecified “verbal abuse.”
“Muslim leaders in Manchester report rise in Islamophobic incidents,” by Jamie Grierson and Robert Booth, Guardian, May 24, 2017:
Muslim leaders in Manchester have expressed concern about a number of Islamophobic incidents in the city, from verbal abuse to criminal damage to mosques.
Senior members of the Muslim community say that they have received reports of abusive behaviour since the attack on Manchester Arena earlier this week.
Fawzi Haffar, trustee of the Manchester Islamic Centre in Didsbury, where Salman Abedi, the Manchester Arena bomber, is understood to have prayed, said: “We are concerned about reports we are receiving about anti-Muslim acts. These are terrible anti-Muslim acts ranging from verbal abuse to acts of criminal damage to mosques in the area and outside the area. We do encourage any incidents to be reported as a hate crime.”
Mohammed Ullah, Muslim chaplain at University of Manchester, said that he had heard reports of a Muslim girl being spat at and another Muslim person being told to “go home”. An arsonist attacked a mosque in Oldham, Greater Manchester, shortly after the atrocity.
“We hear reports but many people are very scared to talk about the problem or they don’t want to cause a fuss,” Ullah told the Guardian. “We receive reports but I think incidents are under-reported.”
“Islamophobic attacks have increased in the last few years exponentially,” he went on. “I tell Muslim students to report these hate incidents when they happen. Be vigilant against it and don’t allow hate to divide us.”
Speaking outside the Didsbury mosque, Haffar sought to dispel reports that Abedi had worked at the centre, and said: “We express concern that a small section of the media are manufacturing stories and making unfounded points.”
He also expressed his outrage at the attack, calling it a “horrific atrocity” and saying “this act of cowardice has no place in our religion or any other religion”. He encouraged anyone with information to contact the police.
But Ullah said that Muslims should not be expected to apologise for the actions of extremists.
“I say to Muslims you should not have to apologise for the actions of individuals,” he said. “No other community has ever been held to account like this. Let me be clear – what happened on Monday was a crime of epic proportions. It was epic, evil and one we condemn with the strongest condemnation.
“But let’s also be clear about this – why do we then have to stand up and say: ‘we apologise’? It’s not my fault. It’s not the fault of the religion.”
“We’re sick of having to apologise and being the first to condemn it. What more can we do? Tell me what more can we do?”…
TL says
Every Muslim problem has a solution which can be expressed with just two words:
MUSLIMS OUT
Savvy Kafir says
Just in case that’s not clear enough, let’s state it a little more emphatically, in three words: ALL Muslims out.
That’s the ONLY cure for the myriad Islam-related problems that have plagued the West in recent decades, and the ONLY way to prevent the Islamization of the free world. Any other approach is a waste of time.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes.
Got Muslims? Got Jihad.
I don’t want any more coming IN; and I want to see the lot of them going OUT.
However: given existing laws, the thing to push for, loud and clear, over and over, by as many people as can be got on board, all over the West (and there are many majority-Infidel African countries, too, that have a horrible and increasing muslim fifth-column problem due to illegal ‘immigration’ aka Hijra-to-spread-Islam; e.g. Kenya, with Somali Muslims who pour over the borders and create Trouble), is an END to entry of any person from an OIC country, *other than* (heavily scrutinised and double checked) bona fide members of the horribly-persecuted non-Muslim minorities in some of said countries… e.g. Copts from Egypt, Hindus and Christians from Pakistan, Yazidis and Christians from Syria and Iraq.
Also: push for 1/ NO return permitted to infidel-country-passport-holding Mohammedans *Known* to have waltzed off to known Jihad hotspots (e.g. Yemen, Libya, Somalia, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq) and – push for 2/ laws to be changed to permit stripping of passport from said Mohammedans. Let ’em go; DON’T let them come back… slam and lock the door tight shut behind them as soon as they take themselves off to join Islamic State or whoever.
I think those three interim goals are achievable, if we keep on pushing and keep on educating.
Next step is to push for expulsion of non-citizen Mohammedans. OUT they go. Far too many have Gone Jihad the instant they acquired citizenship (see, the Times Square bombing attempt, by a Pakistani Muslim who had gotten US citizenship only a short time before attempting mass murder by a huge bomb that, fortunately, went PHUT rather than BOOM), or at some time after (the Fort Hood mass murderer). Probability and statistics says: deny them citizenship. Discourage them from remaining. If their Muslim country of origin – loath to acquiesce in a diminution of the Muslim colonies in the dar al Harb – refuses to take them, well… there are not a few ‘failed’ mohammedan states that completely lack the ability to deny them entry or to police their presence… Yemen, for example, or Somalia…or Libya… drop ’em off on the beach. Let the Ummah provide for its own. They’re always going on about Brotherhood and Sisterhood and how Mohammedan hospitality is superior to the mean ol’ infidels… let ’em prove it, by taking in their own.
The final step, not achievable until one has sufficient citizens awake and aware and some new lawmakers, is to change the law to permit stripping of citizenship from Mohammedans, currently resident in the lands of the dar al harb, who currently possess it. And that includes converts to Islam.
I’d rather expel them to the lands already blighted by Islam, than – expensively – intern them. If they’re converts they should be all on fire to live in some Islamic paradise where Infidel laws and customs are nonexistent. Free ticket for the Hajj, then off to wherever in the 57 OIC countries takes their fancy.
gravenimage says
All fine suggestions, DDA.
Donald R Laster Jr says
And since Islam is a theocracy and to be Islam is to be a citizen of a foreign State eliminate dual citizenship. A citizen of the Islamic theocracy can not be loyal citizen, or loyal immigrant, of a non-Shar’iah based State due to the teachings of Islam and Shar’iah law. Remember, citizenship is about fealty. So any Islamic who is an citizen of a non-Islamic State who engages in terrorism or tries to force Islam or Shar’iah law on non-Islamic State is basically waging war against the non-Islamic State. That is treason.
And real immigrants swear an oath of fealty.
Frank Anderson says
Donald, correct. According to the fundamental teachings of Islam any oath or promise to an Infidel is not binding. On the contrary, Muslims are ordered to lie to Infidels whenever advantage can be obtained.
In some jurisdictions “false swearing” of oaths is criminal. In the UK?
Donald R Laster Jr says
In the US it is.
Frank Anderson says
Donald, I have put several people in a real bind in the US over false statements in federal court. 18 U.S.C. Section 1001, Endeavoring to Conceal Material Information or to Supply Misleading Information is just 1 of the statutes. Others would include perjury charges. Then there is the statute that allows making a declaration under penalty of perjury without the necessity of a notary. But I am curious if lying in the UK is regarded as a crime and whether it is ever prosecuted? Evidently it doesn’t matter what one says to government officials, as long as it is what they want to hear, it doesn’t matter if a Muslim is lying like a dog, nothing will be done.
Savvy Kafir says
Those are all excellent suggestions; and they can serve as stepping-stones to the ultimate goal of ridding the free world of Islam.
But I think it’s time for Islam-savvy counter-jihadis to begin promoting the fact that the only way to make the civilized world safe from the threat of the Demographic Jihad — and to make infidels safe from the threat of violent jihadis — is to send Islam back to the desert from which it came.
mortimer says
It’s DISTRACTION to stop people from thinking that they all support terrorism. A poll of attitudes at most mosques would probably show a very high level of support for Islamic terrorism!
About 15% of Muslims worldwide self-identify as supporting a terrorist group. Only about 15% of Muslims attend mosques. Most of the terror supporters will be in the mosques.
eur says
action=>reaction .
Muslims consent their community to be violent, their religion to be expansive and repressive. We can not be lambs waiting to be killed. Of course there is hatred towards Islam and by extension towards Muslims, of course it is unfair to many peaceful (but undemocratic) muslims … what should we do? WE CAN NOT LIVE WITH MUSLIMS !!! It is always a matter of time to be attacked and politically subjected by islamic law.. Islam must leave the West.
Monty says
A phobia is an irrational fear, or used to be until the PC brigade got hold of the term. There is nothing irrational about a fear of Islam. What more can Muslims do? Go home. You do not belong in any non Muslim country. you just do not fit. And neither do you want to. Your faux anger at being abused makes me sick. Go home. Leave us alone. I’d chip in to a crowdfunded program to rid the West of Muslims.
I would suggest the following action to be taken by the authorities. The next attack by a Muslim is followed by a tactical nuke on Mecca. If another attack takes place, level whatever shrine is next most sacred. And so on. It won’t happen of course.
somehistory says
The logical, reasoning person, could argue that any other *phobia* causes the patient to avoid that which is feared…such as open spaces, high places, crowds, spiders, etc.
If someone has an irrational fear of islum, that person will avoid moslums and where they congregate…they would not go seeking them out to be rude or otherwise.
As you say, the term phobia has been misused by those seeking to outlaw the speaking of truth about islum.
If moslums don’t like being frowned upon for being a part of the group that is slaughtering innocent people, they should depart for places where they will receive smiles and pats on the back when moslums murder innocent people.
utis says
I completely understand the poor man. In Islamland, if a Christian bombed a muslim event, the masses would set fire to random Christians and bulldoze churches with the people still in them. At the very least. Of course the British muslim community is upset.
And he’s right about apologizing. Their apologies don’t mean anything, and only the severely brain-damaged believe a muslim apology.
RichardL says
best comment I have read on JW for a long time. And that means something.
In Egypt, Christians who are harmed by Muslims are forced to attend reconciliation meetings. If they were killed, their family has to attend these sessions and forgive the Herrenmensch who killed their father, mother, brother or sister.
It is such a vicious cult that brings the absolute worst in people.
Rob says
In many Muslim countries (like Egypt, Pakistan, etc.), Muslims kidnap Christian girls, force the girls to convert to Islam and marry Muslim men. In such cases, the government almost always denies the kidnapping charge and refuses to repatriate the Christian girl back to her Christian family. On the other hand, if a Muslim girl converts to Christianity and/or marries a Christian man, the government always supports the kidnapping charge and forces the Christians to repatriate the Muslim girl back to her Muslim family. In the last case, the accused Christian family (whether guilty or not) will usually be burned or bombed out of their home and frequently killed by mob violence. So much for the religion of peace.
James says
That last sentence made me laugh out loud. Spot on.
Jim says
An excellent analysis sir.
Westman says
Too true. And about, “It’s not the fault of the religion.” It certainly is the fault of the religion whose “sacred” Quran and Hadith allow all kinds of mayhem against infidels. It may be , in this modern age, that a majority of Muslims are peaceful; ignoring the directives of Islam Ideology against non-believers. However the fact that the Ideology still legitimizes violence against infidels is part and parcel of the official religious writings from Allah and Muhammad and is an open invitation to Muslims who want to injure and kill infidels.
It is the fault of the religion, Islam, which is in dire need of reform. Because of the official writings, strictly adhering to the Quranic and Hadith directives, (and fundamentalist will), means violence, and ultimately, a troubled future for Islam.
Rob says
Islam cannot be reformed since Mohammad said that every his successors y word in the Koran came to him (Mohammad) directly from Allah himself. And since Mohammad (the narcissistic pillager, war lord and rapist) was held by his immediate followers and successor to be the perfect Muslim who every other Muslim should strive to emulate, his personal actions and “words” cannot be exorcised from the Islam. The most that the world can hope for is that the majority of Muslims will choose to follow the (first) Mecca portion of the Koran and not the (later) violent Medina portion.
Michael says
“We’re sick of having to apologise and being the first to condemn it. What more can we do? Tell me what more can we do?”
Easy. Stop blaspheming your Creator.
Stop worshipping Muhammad.
Find yourself another religion.
Keys says
Right. And if you can’t do that get the hell out of the West, and back to your sharia lands.
James says
Don’t want to apologise, do you ? Then stop being a danger to others by raping, threatening, shooting, stabbing, and otherwise harming them. If Muslims would only find a moral sense and behave like decent human beings, they would not need to apologise. They deserve far worse than to be expected – oh, horrors – to apologise for the revolting behaviour of their fellow-Muslims. Mudslimism is the perfect religion for sociopaths.
Donald R Laster Jr says
They won’t do that since that would require them renounce Islam, Shar’iah law, Mohammad, and 1400 years of Islamic depravities.
traci94 says
I don’t give a flip about the rise of Islamophobia! A phobia is an irrational fear; there is nothing irrational about fearing Islam. I’m not condoning people committing acts of violence against Muslims or mosques, but people SHOULD be afraid and should have discussions about these persistent and frequently occurring attacks, rape gangs, Sharia law, etc.
A Lee says
Exactly. It’s a very healthy fear.
traci94 says
Oh, and this guy asks, “what more can we do?” How about telling the truth? How about admitting that your religion is VIOLENT to the core? Just tell the freakin’ truth for once!! Tell us HOW you expect the rest of the world to respond when MUSLIM after MUSLIM keeps committing acts of violence! Tell us HOW this religion is the one religion that keeps getting “misunderstood” time and time again. And, stop treating us like we’re idiots and not to believe what we see continually happening on a daily basis. Jerk.
dumbledoresarmy says
He asks ‘what more can we do?”
Well, the answer is either a/ publicly apostasise and join the Camp of the Infidels or b/ LEAVE BRITAIN and p*ss off to the Dar al Islam.
gravenimage says
+1
Jaladhi says
The usual lies from Muslims and no more! Nobody should pay any attention to the fake news propagated by Muslims!
A Lee says
“No other community has ever been held to account like this.”
Incorrect! The Catholic community has been held to account, and rightly so, for allowing the cover-up of pedophile clergy in the Church.
Keys says
Good point, A Lee.
Time to sue the muslim communities for millions and billions for the deaths of non-muslims. They know Allah allows for the murder of non-muslims; these communities bred and nurture these Islamic killers.
Keys says
breed and nurture
A Lee says
I don’t know if a lawsuit would work, but Western government leaders are just as culpable for letting them in. That includes President Obama here in the States. Appeasement isn’t “nice.” It’s cultural suicide.
Your reference to breeding illustrates an important point. I don’t know the reason for the low fertility rate among native Europeans, but it’s alarming. The Muslims tend to have larger families. Maybe Westerners think it’s too inconvenient to have kids. Well, that philosophy might have worked in the past, but now it’s likely to destroy them. Choices have consequences.
Norger says
What other community has been held to account?! What other “community” ascribes to a religion that mandates warfare against unbelievers? The simple fact is is that Islam necessarily, reliably and systematically breeds a terrorist element. The supposed “moderates” in your “community” are (at best) unwilling or unable to suppress the savage element that Islam necessarily breeds wherever it takes hold. You and the rest of your “community” must be held to account for this latest in an endless string of unspeakable atrocities, all DIRECTLY CAUSED by the religion to which you and your religious cohorts adhere.
Jayell says
Fawzi Huffar….‘We are concerned about reports we are receiving about anti-Muslim acts. These are terrible anti-Muslim acts ranging from verbal abuse to acts of criminal damage to mosques in the area and outside the area. We do encourage any incidents to be reported as a hate crime.’”
Just in case you’re reading this, Mr. Huffar, I believe that even more people in the UK are just a bit more than just ‘concerned’ about the vast catalogue of anti-English, anti-Irish, anti-Scottish and ant-Welsh criminal acts by muslims in the UK that are just a tad more serious than saying a few naughty (but possibly well-deserved) words to you poor, long-suffering muslims. And if you’re so concerned about unfortunate things happening to your mosques, (a) you should remember all the cases of vandalism perpetrated by your kind on churches both here in the UK and elsewhere, and (b) you should be relieved that the criminal damage is only to the buildings and not the inhabitants of the buildings (which is the sort of thing that your co-religionists seem to get up to quite a lot). And you speak of ‘hate crimes’ as if the thought of others being less than well-disposed towards you and your kind is an unspeakable injustice. If that were the case, your lack of self-awareness and general awareness is absolutely amazing. Perhaps you might care to ask yourself why the popularity rating for muslims in the UK is probably slipping deeper and deeper into negative values.
Mockingjay says
“Perhaps you might care to ask yourself why the popularity rating for muslims in the UK is probably slipping deeper and deeper into negative values.”
– Well put, Jayell, and this one sentence reveals a lot about (one of) the core problems with muslims: they just seem to be COMPLETELY INCAPABLE of SELF-CRITICISM.
Completely. Absolutely. Incapable. It doesn’t even enter their mind as a possibility.
– And so that means that if someone don’t ike you, it HAS to be the other persons’ fault, of course. Nothing to do with you. No way you deserve this. NO way.
– They’re essentially a bunch of pure narcissists, as individuals as well as a group. Nothing can EVER be their fault. They’re downright perfect, all of ’em! After all, Allah has told them so in his – also perfect – book: “You’re the best of people”! – so don’t EVER let any of those filthy infidel tell you otherwise!
It’s always the fault of the non-muslims.
Leftist Westeners, of course, already believe that, too.
– Now if only the rest of us, who don’t buy any of this, could be made to shut up.
But that won’t happen.
Forget it.
We will keep saying all the things you don’t want to hear.
ESPECIALLY the things you don’t want to hear.
And if you can’t take that, then the West isn’t the place for you to be living in.
.
TR says
Sick of hearing PC “Islamophobic” need to hear more “Islamabeware” .used as correct wording.
Constant justification for Christian genocide by idiots.
Walter Sieruk says
Of the twenty two young people who were murdered in the city of Manchester, by that vicious and murderous action of Islamic terrorism ,seven who the victims who died were very young girls . What a cruel, despicable and malicious god the god of Islam is to actually instruct jihadist/Muslim to commit such homicidal actions and even enjoy a heartless and brutal massacre of youth and in Manchester.
The god of Islam likes it when non-Muslims [Kafirs] die . As the above posting she the god of Islam is not the God of the Bible. Getting back to the god of Islam ,the television Imam Suliman Satari said “Annihilate the Infidels… Allah count them and kill them, to the last one and don’t leave even one.” Furthermore Imam Abu Hamza Al-Masri said “What makes Allah happy? Allah is happy when Kafiers get killed. [1]
. The above words of these Imams reflect the example of Islam’s prophet and the teachings of the Quran. “Muhammad now fell upon them [the Jews] slew all the men, nine hundred of them…”[2]
Moreover, the Quran reads “When ye encounter the unbelievers strike off their heads, until ye have made great slaughter among them. Verily if Allah pleased, He could take vengeance on them without your assistance, but He commandeth you to fight His Battles.” 47:4
In short, these Imams and their murderous prophet with their bloody Quran show the world what Islam really is. After all, Jesus did teach “by their fruits you will know them.” Matthew 7:20. [NKJV]
[1] The disc documentary OBSESSION: RADICAL ISLAM’s AGAINST THE WEST
[2] THE OUTLINE OF HISTORY: THE WHOLE STORY OF MAN by H.G. Wells
David Ramseur says
I disagree with apologizing for vandalizing Mosques. It is time for the people to rise up against this incredibly evil scourge that has been foisted on them. Islam has attacked time and time again with zero provocation. Our politicians are not going to protect us. They are never going to lead a charge. It really is up to us, regular people, to drive them out. I am serious. And until this is understood, nothing will change. We are in a war. Our leaders refuse to recognize this. Islam doesn’t understand anything but force. Our leaders refuse to recognize that. If a Charles Martel movement ever does happen, it will be from the people. I am so pessimistic about that though. Because inciting violence is seen as sooooo wrong. Well, what did Bonhoeffer do with Hitler? I really hope attitudes are changing. I know that whoever starts the actual pushback will go to prison or be executed for his stand. Admittedly, that keeps me from doing anything. I am also a Christian and find it very difficult to reconcile these thoughts with Jesus’s teachings….it is a struggle. But, I mean, when does the backlash ever happen? Islam must be destroyed. I would hope that individual Muslims wouldn’t have to be destroyed….but Islam definitely has to be destroyed.
dumbledoresarmy says
Here’s something else the Mohammedans won’t like.
If you are a Christian or a Jew, make a ‘hit-list’ of all the known mosques in your city, town and neighbourhood.
Then, pray through the list, regularly, Pray for the exposure and failure of all jihad plots/ incitement/ recruitment taking place at those mosques. Pray for the binding and casting out of all evil Powers associated with it. Pray for Law Enforcement to be freed from a dhimmi mindset and enforce our Infidel laws – vigorously and fearlessly. Pray for LOTS of apostasies to happen amongst the attendees!
Worth a try.
boakai ngombu says
and let it be known to the brothers that many are praying just as you say
there may be a complaint that Christians are cursing them
Dawn says
When any kind of attack happens muslims are victims. That is not right. Why does no government stand up and say no more.
Benedict says
To expect the Muslim community to condemn or to eradicate the impulse of their fellow believers to commit atrocities is a vain hope. What are the means? Muslims can’t abandon their religion and their traditions and the “perfect” example of their prophet in order to protect and promote Islam and make it acceptable in the eyes of the infidels. It’s an Islamic catch 22.
Kyra Nelson says
I’m proud to be “islamophobic.” If you’re not “islamophobic” you’re not paying attention.
The Istanbulian says
Except many Muslims and others hold Jews accountable for the acts of Israel…and even kill them for it. This is documented and easily available info.
Halal Bacon says
how many people killed by islamophobia, whatever the f that is? you can stop bitching about islamophobia and start condemning the killers and maybe consider reform, but that cannot happen because the devils book is the literal word of the devil and perfect…
Richard James says
Nasty comments aimed at Muslims and some vandalism of mosques?
So much worse than Muslims blowing our little girls to pieces.
Muslims, can’t live with ’em, can’t round ’em up and ship ’em out. Yet.
Richard James, Manchester
dumbledoresarmy says
Join the Royal Society of St George… .and spread awareness of the jihad amongst the other members of the Society. If the Islamoresistant joined it en masse – I mean hundreds, or thousands – it could become a force to be reckoned with.
Hang out the Cross of St George from your top window.
Join Gavin Boby, Law and Freedom Foundation. March for England. Hell, buy Tommy Robinson’s book and place copies in every municipal library, on the sly, and send a copy to every cowering MP and Peer in the Parliament. Join PEGIDA UK. Support Liberty Great Britain.
There’s lots you can do.
miriamrove says
Victimhood in full motion. m
gravenimage says
So true, miriam.
James says
Fucking whiners. I thought the Islamovermin were against whine. If they had a trace of human decency, they would only too eager to apologise, and would not dream of trying instead to cover their arses. The Muzz have no human decency. The Religion of Rape-‘n’-Murder sees to that.
Wellington says
“Islamophobia” of course is a bogus term. It is used to shut up people from criticizing Islam in any way. Anyone using it seriously should never be taken seriously.
Years ago a commenter here at JW, whose name I have forgotten, suggested the term “Islamonausea” as a far more accurate term. I agree. Count me in as an Islamonausean. I am utterly sick of Islam, all of it, think EVERY Muslim is at least a confused human being, many of them of course being evil as well, and, in general, find Islam and Muslims nauseating. Yes, I’m an Islamonausean and proud of it. I would contend that anyone who cherishes liberty, which Islam is a mortal enemy of, should be too.
Stan Lee says
So sad for those poor, downtrodden Muslims in Britain. They whine with each having a loaf of bread in his/her grasp, and police and 10 Downing St. protection included. They could avoid all suspicions and “Islamphobia” by forsaking their support of the British Socialist government, and returning to the fertile, peaceful fields of Islam. Flights leave from Heathrow daily and the “Chunnel” is also available if they wish to begin the journey that way. A stopover in Germany,Sweden, Belgium, or France may prove more to be more to their liking. They are free to use such alternatives..
abad says
Deport all Muslims from the UK. Then close the borders.
That is the only solution.
Savvy Kafir says
Agreed. That’s the only solution that can actually work. Non-Muslims in the West need to become far more concerned about the survival of free, secular societies, and far less concerned about the welfare of our enemies, who will destroy or subjugate us — one way or another — given half a chance, just as their religion demands.
common sense says
“Tell me what more can we do?”…
Read outloud for the press gathered there, passages from the Quran that incite violence. Inform us why we are infidels, please do remind us of the differences we need to overcome since we are ‘multi-cultural’.
That’s all I ask other than everything else suggested on the JW board.
Even now, this very day ISIS is calling for attacks during Ramadan.
I’m no history prof but this guy don’t know nothing about anything. There were laws in the UK going back 700 years against Irish beggars even though many of the destitute Paddy’s were willing to work and Muslim migrants and so called refugees get a free pass with a pay check to boot. What’s given away is never esteemed.
The people of the UK need to demand that everyone look back at what they are made of and remember the cities there were rebuilt after being bombed in WWII only to let these filthy satan worshipers take over London politics in less than a generation and still believe there is nothing wrong with Islam. Unbelievable……smh and pfa.
common sense says
I should say “London politics” at the very least since Muslim narratives are here, there and everywhere across the entire UK. Furthermore when the political wonks in Scotland that are marching that country into nazi fembit oblivion and bankruptcy call my President a “sociopath” I know for sure beyond a shadow of all reasonable doubt that we elected the right guy. Yes GUY, a MAN with balls, TWO of them!
Rick says
If it’s all true how can it be a phobia,..?? Islam is nothing but an evil cult..!!!
Rick says
If it’s all true how can it be a phobia..???!!!
DJ says
It was about 120 injured but 59 were kept in hospital
The initial numbers were under-reported to try to reduce our anger.
Walter Sieruk says
That brutal and heinous jihadist /Muslim in the city on Manchester, England who murderous so many young girls coming out of the concert as completely demonic and murderous in his deluded and wicked Islamic quest of the jihad This his vicious suicide /homicide jihad bombing attack against those young people was actually behaving in accord to the instruction of the “holy book “ of Islam, the Quran. Which instructs in for example Sura 9:111. “The believer’s fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain they kill and are killed.” After that murderous jihadist died he had discovered, to his shock and horror, the promise of a paradise with many houris , as the Quran teaches 44:54. 55:56. 78:31., for the dead jihadist was a lie outright lie and a total falsehood . For that Muslim terrorist found this out the hard way because after he dies he found himself trapped and suffering in the fires of hell .Such as the Bible describes in for example, Luke 13:28. 16:19-31.The Bible also teaches that a murderer “shall not inherit the kingdom of God.” Galatians 5:21.[K.J.V.] Furthermore, in the Bible book of Revelation in 21:8 it gives a list of the people who will end up terribly suffering without end . As in forever in that awful place , and one of those persons in that Lake of Fire are people on that list who are murderers. In short, that murderous jihadist is the real loser and he now understand that he was wrong. Very wrong and that he had committed the evil of mass murder because he place his faith in a false religion.
Walter Sieruk says
The heinous wicked Islamic terrorist bombing in the city of Manchester, England is based on the “holy book” of Islam the Quran . As such brutal, vicious deadly violence is sanction and taught in the Quran. As found in, for example, Sura 5:33. 9:5, 111,123. 47:4. There are some naive Westerners who might be shocked to find this out and the wonder and then ask “Just who can those jihad –minded Muslim being so very religious ,also be so extremely heartless ,unfeeling, brutal and murderous to kill as to murder all those girls coming out of that concert in Manchester ?” The answer that question is found in the Bible. For the Bible reveals there are some men who are so very cold, callous and dangerous because they have had “their conscience seared with a hot iron” First Timothy 4:2. [K.J.V.] The “hot iron” in this case is Islam.
Walter Sieruk says
That murderous jihad terror attack at the concert at Manchester totally cruel and despicable. This heinous Islamic of mass murder is so extremely evil , so evil , in fact, this is mass murdering of young people ,most of them girls also has a strong vicious element of misogyny to it. Misogyny, as most informed people do understand, is very much part of the essence of Islam. Along with the brutal deadly violence of this religion. This Muslim /terrorist bombing is not as some claim as result of a warped version of Islam but hard core non-watered down Quran based Islam. For example, the Quran instructs in Sura 9:123 “O you who believe ! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you…” It’s thus very easy for a jihad minded Muslim show harshness to young girls who are not Muslims by exploding and bomb .This sure can be harsh This wicked action was the outcome of the deadly cruel religion which is Islam.
Walter Sieruk says
The hideous and evil Islamic terrorist bombing in the city if Manchester was totally evil. This not as some claim a result of a “hijacked Islam” but actual violent Quran based jihad Islam. This Muslim suicide /homicide bombing is on the Quran as ,for example , in Sura 9:111 it teaches “The believers fight in Allah’s cause they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed…” Furthermore, in Sura 47:4. it also instructs “Whenever you encounter the unbelievers strike off their heads until you make a great slaughter among them…” Let’s face it , setting off a bomb murdering young are who are not Muslims is a very effective way to “make greater slaughter among them.” In conclusion, the religion of Islam is actually a death cult.
Walter Sieruk says
That deadly jihadist who murdered all those young people in the city of Manchester with this suicide /homicide bomb massacre committed a sin and affront unto God and a crime and affront against humankind as well as a heinously evil assault against all the is good, decent ,lawful and right This is one of the many deadly and hideous fruits of Islam .
This is also a reminder that in different countries many jihad- minded Muslims have gathered together and chanted “They love life. We love death.” So with their own words as well as the many violent and deadly teaching of the Quran , 5;33. 9:5, 111,123. 47:4. it many rightly be concluded that Islam is a death cult .
In great contrast is Christianity which is centered on Jesus Who taught and gave life and not death. For example, Jesus said. “I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.” John 10:10. [K.J.V.]
endislam says
They should be made concerned enough to leave period. Am sick of hearing about them and the daily Christian, Hindu and Jewish people murdered. I despise those globalists that have allowed this cult to fester because they’re greedy power hungry commies. There is no living with them. They’ve had their chance to become a civilized human being and have failed. Time now to help them pack their bags and kick them to the curb. OUT OUT OUT!
Savvy Kafir says
Agreed. Please keep pushing that agenda, with anyone who’ll listen. It’s time to show Muslims the door.
That’s ALL Muslims, anywhere in the free world. Their ideology is intrinsically incompatible with freedom & human rights & basic human decency.
Once they’re gone, we can start figuring out how to isolate them & reduce the threat they pose to non-Muslim nations. Developing green energy, so we can stop buying their oil — permanently — would be an excellent start.
Savvy Kafir says
I take “Islamophobia” in this case (and every other case) to mean “Islamo-realism”, and growing distrust of Muslims — the carriers of this lethal virus, the perpetrators of Demographic Jihad, and, in many cases, the enthusiastic supporters of Sharia and violent jihad.
This is war. Some feelings are going to get hurt. Muslims certainly don’t give a damn about our feelings. And many of the more plainspoken Allah junkies seem happy enough regarding the rising body count of infidel men, women, & children.
So if “Islamophobia” is on the rise in Manchester, I’d say it’s about f**king time!
Bill W. says
It took Spain 400 years to get rid of this cancer1100 to 1492.I think the British better get started now!
Donald R Laster Jr says
Islamic are always screaming “phobia” to avoid dealing with the fact that they are the problem and if they were not following Mohammad’s teachings the problems would not occur. As was point out the better term is “Islamo-realism”. Due to the teachings of the Islam and its civil law (Shar’iah) NO Islamic can be trusted in any area. They are all an active threat and are part of an invading army. This is clear when one takes the time to learn Islam’s history and teachings.
Frank Anderson says
Let me see if I understand the Muslim cycle that has continued for 1400 years: Teach murder, rape, slavery and plunder for 1400 years. Practice it for 1400 years. Apologize when faced with any sorry excuse of resistance, which is overcome as quickly as possible by additional attacks. And keep on teaching, killing and apologizing as long as people are stupid enough, cowardly enough and collaborate enough to allow it to continue. Then after say 800 years to a 1000 years of Islamic rule, get thrown out for a while only to return and continue the conquest as directed by evil. Does that sound like what is happening? “Those who cannot remember . . .” Jorge Santayana, Essay on The Life of Reason (1905).
This is a very good time to remember and get on with doing what we can to bring it to a halt. It’s great for us to know; but it is better for more to know. Help 1 more person see the truth every chance we get. With greatest hope and respect for all who know for themselves and understand what is beyond risk, and is actually happening. “Pray as though everything depends on God; Act as though everything depends on us.”
Ann says
Why is it not the fault of their religion, Islam? The terrorists have read the foundational texts of Islam, the Qur’an, the hadith, the life of Mohammed, some have studied its 1400 years of jurisprudence. The jihadi Monday night in Manchester had memorized the Qur’an, which tells all Muslims that they MUST humiliate, terrorize, and kill non-Muslims until we all submit to Islamic law, the sharia. And so thousands of them do. Pretty direct line of cause and effect here.
I think we’re going to have to ban Islam, period. Those who want to live in a civilized, respectful way with the outer world can give up Islam and then apply for a visa. But go through stringent screening first, and determine the sincerity of their having given up Islam. Someone told me the other day that I had MY negative interpretation of Islam, without ever explaining on what any other interpretation of Islam would be based. Why should we accept among us people who are taught to revile non-Muslims, enslave and behead us? So one Muslim says: “Oh, but that’s not MY Islam!” So what is the dogma of HIS Islam and what are its textual foundations? How does he distinguish HIS Islam from the extremely textually-based Islam of the terrorists?
dumbledoresarmy says
Yep, Exactly.
If ALL the muslims left India, for example, life in India would become instantly much safer and more pleasant for all Infidels in India, and all the money wasted on, for example, subsidising trips to Hatred Central (Mecca) could be spent on improving infrastructure and education.
if ALL the Muslims left Israel, life in Israel would become much safer and more pleasant, and all the money spent on homeland security, could be spent on 1/ investing in life-enhancing activities and 2/ fortifying the borders against the mohammedans next door.
NO Infidel country *needs* a Mohammedan colony that stews and simmers with hatred, resentment and self-pity, whining and pushing and bullying, inside its gates.
gravenimage says
UK: Muslim leaders in Manchester, site of jihad massacre, claim rise in “Islamophobia”
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We all expect this fake Muslim victim-mongering.
rosemary hopkin says
ALL of the MOSQUES in MANCHESTER SHOULD BE CLOSED DOWN AS A RESULT OF THE KILLINGS OF THE CHILDREN IN MANCHESTER. NO ARGUMENT..
Matthew Johnson says
No Muslims No terror attacks as simple as that Britains survival equals removal of all Muslims by any means necessary
Sarah says
This is what its going to eventually come down to.
We will end up descending into civil war. Whilst the attacks go on.
Eventually, the only choice will be to expel every single last one of them.
If we did it now, we’d save the lives of billions.
Donald R Laster Jr says
Don’t talk about a civil war since it is not going to be a civil war. It will be acknowledging that an invasion has been occurring and the invading army will be repealed and exterminated, or the country will be taken over like Islam has done to North Africa, the Middle East, and other areas.
Red says
WHEN is someone going to do something?
Frank Anderson says
Red, please permit me to suggest that it all starts with us. Every single person we can inform who is presently ignorant and unconcerned is another person to help inform others of the future if we fail to act. Unless we do our part there will be no 1 person who can save us. It will take all of us. Please think about it.
Sarah says
That utter animal, Fawzi Haffar and his lies and deceit. How dare he.
‘“I say to Muslims you should not have to apologize for the actions of individuals,” he said’
**When you follow the same religion as those individuals, yes you do. When you believe the same things s those individuals, yes you do. When you continue to prop up the black hole of depravity that is Islam – YES. YOU. DO.
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“No other community has ever been held to account like this.”
***Liar. Remember the Nazis? Remember the Japanese in WW2? There’s a couple of examples, you filthy excuse for a human being.
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‘“But let’s also be clear about this – why do we then have to stand up and say: ‘we apologise’? It’s not my fault. It’s not the fault of the religion.”’
***You have to apologize when you support, follow and demand the right to continue to prop up that black hole of depravity that is Islam. Because you created this. Because you shield this. Because you nurture this There is blood on the hands of every Muslim on the planet right now. It is the fault of the religion BECAUSE THE ATTACK AND EVERY OTHER ATTACK LIKE IT ARE CAUSED BY ISLAM, FOR ISLAM, IN THE NAME OF GOD-ROTTING ISLAM.
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‘“We’re sick of having to apologise and being the first to condemn it. What more can we do? Tell me what more can we do?”…’
**Who else should be apologizing for this? A Christian? A Buddhist? An Atheist? Why?? They’re not propping Islam up. Why should I, as a Western White female who is an Atheist, apologize for your obscene, sickening, filthy cult? I don’t support Islam, I don’t believe in Islam, I don’t prop it up, ergo – I am not accountable for that POS belief system. But a Muslim is. Every Muslim is.
What more can you do? WALK AWAY AND ABANDON IT. Give it up. Recognize it as nothing more than the excuses and lies laid out by a warmongering pedophile coward from the dark ages who created it in order to gather attention, notoriety, power, wealth and control for himself and his own ends. Recognize it as inhumane evil.
That’s what you can do, Fawzi. But you won’t.You and every other POS Muslim on the planet who loves their religion, will just lie lie lie lie lie instead. You’d better hope I’m wrong with my atheism. You’d better hope that all the other religions on the planet that have ever existed since the dawn of mankind, are wrong too. Because if literally anyone else is right – you lot either have a day of reckoning coming for your sickening adherence to that murderous cult, or the knowledge that you wasted the ONE life you have, following the perverted ideals of a selfish narcissistic pedophile coward – playing the victim, whilst ignoring the true victims.
I read about a homeless man who was a first responder to the scene after the attack. He spoke of how he had to PULL NAILS FROM THE FACE of a little girl. That experience will rot his head for the rest of his days. If that poor little girl survived, its going to rot her head too.
And this utter scumbag moans and plays the victim? I hate him for his words, right now. I hate him for whining about how hard done by he apparently is. What a selfish narcissistic coward. Funnily, just like his beloved Prophet.
Go rot in your council house, on your dole cheque, you irredeemable, worthless waste of oxygen and water. You are a lost cause, you make me sick.
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Sarah says
Thank-you.
I am just filled with fury this time. Every terror attack has angered me, has hurt me, has frustrated me.
But I feel I may have reached my limit now, especially knowing that little kids were the target. I have lost any tolerance or any empathy whatsoever for any human being who follows that religion/culture/political state.
I’ve reached my limit. I wonder how long it will take for a big enough majority of other Westerner’s to reach this, too? The longer we stall, the more innocent men, women and children are hurt, terrorized and brutally slaughtered in the name of Islam.
Red says
We NEED someone with the Bravery of a “Tommy Robinson” to organise a proper resistance to the importation and cuddling up to rapists and murderers
Michael McDermott says
Local politicians refuse to relate Islam to the Arena tragedy. Protecting their votes in the coming election?
David says
Islamophobia….the politically correct term for reality. What happened to truth and common sense?
Valkyrie Ziege says
; People are pulling chunks of dead children out of their hair while worrying about be labeled ”Islamophobic”. Here is my five-word speech, ”It isn’t -phobia, it’s rejection”.
Lydia says
What a shock!
Terrorists in islam making people terrified by islam by bombings and killings?
Go figure!
phobia=fear or terror
The irony in these things just keeps on getting bigger.
Mike says
Poor muslims ! They are so often victims of their crimes that maybe they should stop their crimes, Ha ! Ha Ha !
Red says
Murderers = Murderers … And I suffer from Islamophobia? there is no such word… We should be deporting these B’s as fast as we can go
tim gallagher says
I agree with all the comments above that say, well, if you don’t like getting nasty looks and hate from we non-Muslims, then leave the barbaric, evil creed Islam behind. I believe all these bleating Muslims saying crap like Islam is peaceful, blah, blah, know their Koran, which is so full of calls for murder of non-believers, only too well. They just tell mega-lies to us all the time. The only people I respect are former Muslims who packed up and left such as Wafa Sultan, Ali Sina, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Ibn Warraq, et al. It can be done. They made a moral decision to be decent people. I have zero respect for anyone who stays a part of evil Islam. And it is truly sickening to have this piece of garbage whingeing about getting a few nasty looks or threats immediately after the young concert goers were killed in Manchester and the Egyptian Copts slaughtered. Boohoo! Muslims care only about their fellow Muslims, no one else matters to them at all. As a non-Muslim, to hell with them. To hell with the whole murderous creed Islam. They shouldn’t be allowed into any non-Muslim countries. If only our pathetic politicians and media types would wake up.
UNCLE VLADDI says
So muslims terrify people by murdering their children, then claim to be victims because their own victims are now properly terrified of them?!
Islamophobia is officially the main goal of islam itself!
mortimer says
Uncle wrote: “Islamophobia is … the main goal of islam”
Terrorizing the dirty kufaar is the purpose of jihad. When terrorized, they will not have to be fought. Muslims hope the dirty kufaar will surrender without a fight.
mortimer says
‘Reliance of the Traveller’ Chapter ‘O’ 11.10.05: “The (Dhimmi) agreement is also violated (A: with respect to the offender alone) if the state has stipulated that any of the following things break it, and one of the subjects does so anyway, though if the state has not stipulated that these break the agreement, then they do not; namely, if one of the subject people: -5- mentions something impermissible about Allah, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), or Islam.”
In other words, no dirty kafir may criticize Islam in any way. There is no LEGITIMATE criticism of Islam in Sharia law.
A dirty kafir must remain silent about Islam and never even mention it. Muslims consider all comments by a kafir about Islam to be blasphemy, since kafirs are not worthy to speak about Islam.
mortimer says
Fawzi Haffar is like Anwar Awlaki … a perfect example of taqiyya.
Prior to coordinating several deadly terror plots, such as the Fort Hood massacre and the attempt to blow up a Detroit-bound airliner, American cleric Anwar al-Awlaki was regularly sought out by NPR, PBS and even government leaders to expound on the peaceful nature of Islam.
“We came here to build, not to destroy,” the cleric, Anwar al-Awlaki, said in a sermon after 9-11. Then he claimed that the perpetrators of 9-11 had ‘twisted their religion.’
Later on, he said, “Jihad is becoming as American as apple pie and as British as afternoon tea”.
Anwar Awlaki’s sermons inspired armies of jihadists to see jihad as a religious duty to take action to conduct jihad.
Awlaki had spent 21 of his 39 years in the United States, but nine years after 9-11, from his hide-out in Yemen, Mr. Awlaki declared war on the United States.
Awlaki is a perfect example of taqiyya.