ex Defence Minister of Canada tells about Aliens

This guy has perfect credentials, if we listen what he says, we are in real trouble. If anyone should know it should be him. He has identified all the troublesome points which have been brought up on ATS . He has them codified in a time line. Its well worth a look. To him the Aliens have been here for many years, the problem with that is that the military industrial complex have taken over along with the Bankers to bring in a totalitarian , world government, based on the fascist ideal we thought was long past..

Lol.. i think the old fruit lost his marbles.

a reply to: anonentity

Paul hellyer you seriously think hes sane?? Hes watched one too many episodes of star trek.

Wouldn't it be crazy if there were two competing types of aliens, one wanting to unite the world so we can join the rest of the universe, and the other wanting to keep all the nations separate so we continue squabbling with each other over what piece of dirt we're standing on, allowing them to continue exploiting us.

a reply to: anonentity

Paul Hellyer is just regurgitating the same old stuff , Roswell , MJ12 , NWO and the unverified claim of Carol Rosin.
He says at the end of the video that we have been "given a few months , not years to change our course" but the video was recorded in March 2015.

I don't believe Paul Hellyer knows anything more than you or I in regard to ET.

a reply to: anonentity

Guys cheese slid of his cracker.

Hellyer’s beliefs include the following details:

Most aliens come from other star systems, although there are some living on Venus, Mars and Saturn’s moon.

There have been four species of aliens visiting our planet for thousands of years.

Most alien species have benevolent intentions toward humanity, although a handful have ulterior motives.

One alien species, known as the “Tall Whites” is working with the U.S. air force in Nevada and has been known to pass for humans in public.

The “federation” of alien species has vowed not to intervene in human affairs unless they are invited to.

The federation is disappointed in the way humans have treated the planet.

Aliens technology is far more advanced. They have given us LED lights, microchips and Kevlar vests, but would be far more helpful if we weren’t warmongers.

There are between two and twelve total species of aliens (although some place the number closer to 80). Some look just like humans, while others appear more like the creatures portraying in popular culture.

Never understood this weird appeal to authority among UFO believers.

Did this guy with "perfect credentials" provide any verifiable information?

Well what do you know he wrote a book (1.21)

a reply to: anonentity

Thought I recalled this.

Actually videoed back in March 2015, as per the credits.

Over 3 years ago.

a reply to: anonentity

Pinoit Blanc ...

a reply to: anonentity

please actually comprehend what mr hellyer actually says - he offers ZERO evidence , and no personal experience - he merely states his belief in the tails that other people have published

NOTHING he says is based on his govt experience - or any access to state secrets or familiarity with the canadian military // security services

so using his position as " former govt minister " is the most spurious appeal to authority possible

the bottom line is - he is a bloke who read some books [ that are for sale on amazon ] , attended some lectures [ as a private citizen ] and believed EVERYTHING - now he wants you to believe too

for " reasons " -

Well what to make of it, a well entrenched member of the status quo, a pillar of the closest ally of the USA . Stating what I think are some truths, mixed in with non truths. The truths are now discredited because, he's linked them in with the conspiracy tin foil hat brigade. He's accomplished what he was told to do, and has got a load of royalties out of it.

a reply to: anonentity

wow - in less than 2.5 hours you have preformed a near total volte-face

i shall check the thread in 3 hours to see what your new position is

originally posted by: moebius
Never understood this weird appeal to authority among UFO believers.

Did this guy with "perfect credentials" provide any verifiable information?

You're coming at it from the wrong angle, and it's not really about an "appeal to authority among UFO believers".

As you can see from the first 2 responses, among many others here, ad hominem attacks are the "go to" tactic for disbelievers. For over 70 years one of the most common "debunking" tactics has effectively been the question, "Why is it always toothless backwoods hicks that come out with claims of UFOs/aliens being real?".

Hellyer is the first G8 cabinet level official to come forward with claims that the UFO/alien phenomenon is real. While his testimony alone doesn't "prove an alien presence on earth is real", it does prove that the oldest and most tired ad hominem commonly used for the last 70 years is simply false. It's not just backwoods country hicks making such claims.

a reply to: redmage

one problem - what PERSONAL experience does mr hellyer offer ?

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
NOTHING he says is based on his govt experience - or any access to state secrets or familiarity with the canadian military // security services

This is untrue. He has stated that one of the things that started him down the rabbit hole was contact he had with the Chief of Emergency Measures in Canada.

He discusses this at 3:15.


He's also previously discussed official reports he saw from the Canadian embassy in the U.S. which stated that "the subject matter is real, and more classified than the atomic bomb/Manhattan Project".

a reply to: ignorant_ape

As I just posted, his personal experience only involved official briefings that he saw from the Canadian embassy.

Understand, I'm not claiming that all of Mr. Hellyer's beliefs are accurate, but his testimony does prove that it's not just "backwoods country hicks" who believe that an alien presence on earth is a real phenomenon, and that has been one of the "go to" ad hominems which "debunkers" have used for over seven decades now.

Many debunkers have been begging for an appeal-to-authority since the mid 1900s (as opposed to claims from "Bubba the toothless wonder"), and now they have the testimony of a G8 cabinet level official. It's really no surprise that they're shifting the goalpost, after they get what they've asked for, since they've spent all these decades requesting an appeal-to-authority logical fallacy.

originally posted by: underwerks
Wouldn't it be crazy if there were two competing types of aliens, one wanting to unite the world so we can join the rest of the universe, and the other wanting to keep all the nations separate so we continue squabbling with each other over what piece of dirt we're standing on, allowing them to continue exploiting us.

You have it half right. The genuine ETs are benevolent, wise and have little need for anything that we are, have or make. They are here to help. The other type of "competing ...aliens" you mention are not another race of off-worlders at all but plain, everyday power hungry humans that want the old order to remain the same. They are aided and abetted by humans lacking the ability to understand the large picture of ourselves and the cosmos. These be, for the largest part, the blinded ignorance of those that still claim that UFOs don't exist.

I remember this on youtube quite a while ago. I was in shock for days. This was a true government official exposing alien intel. Would those in the know and power allow him to do this?

I remember him in a room full of people being questioned, in detail and what a shock.

I truly thought this was the beginning of exposure to us about the truth and aliens-but, no-nothing since from anyone with credibility. And there has been very very little since discussed since his book, etc.

I sure don't know-no one is saying much. Could that be a sign that he tells the truth-with no responses?

a reply to: anonentity

Nothing new here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

He reveals nothing that his security clearance might have given him access to, so he is as in the dark as anyone else.