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Rusty floor - avoidable (updated)
Posted by rocannon
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Here's why I don't like floor covering that can't be easily lifted to inspect the floor pan.
This floor is covered with that tar/silver foil stuff, then the carpet pad glued down on top.
Completely plugged up the drain scupper (upper right), and here's the result.
Fortunately it appears that the spring hanger doesn’t need to be replaced. I should be able to patch this.
----------------------------------------------------- new pic ---------------- removed more of the carpet and sound deadening crap.
This is in your future if you glue stuff down.
TOTALLY AVOIDABLE.
Pogo is right.
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The power of reasons is an illusion. The belief will not change when the reasons are defeated. The causality is reversed. People believe the reasons because they believe in the conclusion.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2017-03-03 08:56 PM by rocannon.
This floor is covered with that tar/silver foil stuff, then the carpet pad glued down on top.
Completely plugged up the drain scupper (upper right), and here's the result.
Fortunately it appears that the spring hanger doesn’t need to be replaced. I should be able to patch this.
----------------------------------------------------- new pic ---------------- removed more of the carpet and sound deadening crap.
This is in your future if you glue stuff down.
TOTALLY AVOIDABLE.
Pogo is right.
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The power of reasons is an illusion. The belief will not change when the reasons are defeated. The causality is reversed. People believe the reasons because they believe in the conclusion.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2017-03-03 08:56 PM by rocannon.
mgbanthony
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Absolutely avoidable. When I do floors they get a good epoxy primer and then a few heavy coats of truck bed liner top and bottom, which gives reasonable sound deadening. Anything else is removable if necessary.
Removing the factory asphalt undercoating from what look to be good original floors can be a very disheartening experience as well...
Keep up the good work...you're winning the battles.
Removing the factory asphalt undercoating from what look to be good original floors can be a very disheartening experience as well...
Keep up the good work...you're winning the battles.
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My 74.5 GT, I put carpet in it that you would put in your house. GLUDED it to the car with WILDWOOD Rubber Contact cement, coat on the carpet & a good coat on the floor, get your aim just right, for it is a bare to pull the carpet back up to get it right the second time. Well I had my GT parked & someone left the window down & was a very wet fall & spring, got the car back & the floor had very wet carpet & I knew it was floor pan time! Carpet was rotten, but came up in one piece & dried off the floor pan & I was blown away that there was NO RUST AT ALL!!! The rubber contact cement sealed the floor pan were no water got to it & no rust! The Best condom I have ever seen!!!! FWIW
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Partially cleaned up...
Pogo is right.
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The power of reasons is an illusion. The belief will not change when the reasons are defeated. The causality is reversed. People believe the reasons because they believe in the conclusion.
Pogo is right.
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The power of reasons is an illusion. The belief will not change when the reasons are defeated. The causality is reversed. People believe the reasons because they believe in the conclusion.
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1) Google "seaplane drain grommets"
2) Cut out of old pans
3) Make 'em out of thin metal
Personally, I'd make 'em.
Pogo is right.
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The power of reasons is an illusion. The belief will not change when the reasons are defeated. The causality is reversed. People believe the reasons because they believe in the conclusion.
2) Cut out of old pans
3) Make 'em out of thin metal
Personally, I'd make 'em.
In reply to # 3457535 by LmBoise
Are there replacement drain scuppers or do I cut the ones off the old pans? My replacement pans did not have the scupper.
Pogo is right.
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The power of reasons is an illusion. The belief will not change when the reasons are defeated. The causality is reversed. People believe the reasons because they believe in the conclusion.
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Yes, you will need to strip all the paint off the body that will receive the new paint . . . to bare metal.
* See Below
If you can afford the extra expense, and want your car's paint to be superior, just like your modern car, with urethane color with clear coat:
Prepare the car for the modern urethane paint system.
The car will look like "a brand new car.
The primer required for the urethane color and clear coat, the top coats must be compatible.
"I went a bit overboard" on my 1977 MGB two years ago", after driving it 79,000 miles, after the my first paint job in 1983, soon after my purchase.
This urethane paint is so toxic that the painters have to have fresh breathing air in a mask, while the urethane paint is being sprayed on to the car.
"What brand of urethane color and clear coat" should be the brand that your painter normally uses.
(A) If your car's body still has lacquer paint, the best choice would be to strip all the paint off the car, including the door jams and body floor (above and below) with paint remover.
I recently had to repaint my 1977 after a $4000 deer hit, two years ago. I had already driven the car 79,000 miles since 1983.
I accomplished the paint strip (A) above.
(B) I brush coated the body pan, and all areas that were not going to receive the modern urethane color and clear coat.
"All body medal, that is not scheduled to receive the urethane color and clear coat paint (on the top side of the interior floor, inside the front and rear fender wells, under the hood, and inside the trunk, were primed Rustoleum "Damp Proof Red", applied with a brush.
(C) These areas were then brush painted with Rustoleum, Ultra Cover Semi-Gloss Black General Purpose Paint. One quart might suffice.
Put these words into Google, "rustoleum damp-proof red primer"
And you will find a lot of information about this paint.
*My family has been using Rustoleum "Damp Proof Red" primer since 1949.
Then I asked my professional painter who was going to apply, the urethane color and clear coat determine which modern base coat primer is compatible with the urethane color and clear coat.
Then I did more than a little bit of special body work on the MGB.
I carefully adjusted the hood, front fenders, doors, rear fenders and the trunk lid, so they "were as close to smooth" on each side of the panel gaps" as possible.
Then I did a special "idea" and skim coated a six inch wide thin coat of body filler, on each side of the panel gaps.
After the filler was cured, I used a Harbor Freight Air Inline Sander 62528
"http://www.harborfreight.com/air-tools/sanders/air-inline-sander-62528.html"
ON SALE TODAY FOR $37.99.
. . . across the panel gaps, so the body contour is as smooth as my modern Mercedes.
Yes, this task did not happen perfectly the first try, and some areas need more filler and special care to make sure the panels, when painted were perfect.
Roger N. Tanner, Professional Engineer, Retired
Roger N. Tanner
Professional Engineer, Retired
* See Below
If you can afford the extra expense, and want your car's paint to be superior, just like your modern car, with urethane color with clear coat:
Prepare the car for the modern urethane paint system.
The car will look like "a brand new car.
The primer required for the urethane color and clear coat, the top coats must be compatible.
"I went a bit overboard" on my 1977 MGB two years ago", after driving it 79,000 miles, after the my first paint job in 1983, soon after my purchase.
This urethane paint is so toxic that the painters have to have fresh breathing air in a mask, while the urethane paint is being sprayed on to the car.
"What brand of urethane color and clear coat" should be the brand that your painter normally uses.
(A) If your car's body still has lacquer paint, the best choice would be to strip all the paint off the car, including the door jams and body floor (above and below) with paint remover.
I recently had to repaint my 1977 after a $4000 deer hit, two years ago. I had already driven the car 79,000 miles since 1983.
I accomplished the paint strip (A) above.
(B) I brush coated the body pan, and all areas that were not going to receive the modern urethane color and clear coat.
"All body medal, that is not scheduled to receive the urethane color and clear coat paint (on the top side of the interior floor, inside the front and rear fender wells, under the hood, and inside the trunk, were primed Rustoleum "Damp Proof Red", applied with a brush.
(C) These areas were then brush painted with Rustoleum, Ultra Cover Semi-Gloss Black General Purpose Paint. One quart might suffice.
Put these words into Google, "rustoleum damp-proof red primer"
And you will find a lot of information about this paint.
*My family has been using Rustoleum "Damp Proof Red" primer since 1949.
Then I asked my professional painter who was going to apply, the urethane color and clear coat determine which modern base coat primer is compatible with the urethane color and clear coat.
Then I did more than a little bit of special body work on the MGB.
I carefully adjusted the hood, front fenders, doors, rear fenders and the trunk lid, so they "were as close to smooth" on each side of the panel gaps" as possible.
Then I did a special "idea" and skim coated a six inch wide thin coat of body filler, on each side of the panel gaps.
After the filler was cured, I used a Harbor Freight Air Inline Sander 62528
"http://www.harborfreight.com/air-tools/sanders/air-inline-sander-62528.html"
ON SALE TODAY FOR $37.99.
. . . across the panel gaps, so the body contour is as smooth as my modern Mercedes.
Yes, this task did not happen perfectly the first try, and some areas need more filler and special care to make sure the panels, when painted were perfect.
Roger N. Tanner, Professional Engineer, Retired
Roger N. Tanner
Professional Engineer, Retired
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Pogo is right.
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The power of reasons is an illusion. The belief will not change when the reasons are defeated. The causality is reversed. People believe the reasons because they believe in the conclusion.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-03-03 08:57 PM by rocannon.
Pogo is right.
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The power of reasons is an illusion. The belief will not change when the reasons are defeated. The causality is reversed. People believe the reasons because they believe in the conclusion.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-03-03 08:57 PM by rocannon.
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Rusty white walls
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