For Cathleen Black, a First Test in Albany

Cathleen P. Black, chancellor of New York City Schools, testifying before state legislators in Albany today. Nathaniel Brooks for The New York Times Cathleen P. Black, the New York City schools chancellor, testifying before state legislators in Albany on Tuesday.

ALBANY — One by one, school officials hunched over a microphone on Tuesday and appealed to lawmakers for relief from Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo’s proposed budget cuts. For many of them, the annual hearing was a familiar exercise, a wintertime rite marked by its tediousness more than anything else.

But it was a debut performance for Cathleen P. Black, the New York City schools chancellor. For the first time in her new job, Ms. Black testified before members of the Legislature.

It was a test of sorts for Ms. Black, whose qualifications were criticized when Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg selected her in November to run the city’s school system, the nation’s largest. But in nearly two hours in front of the lawmakers, Ms. Black held her own. She made no obvious gaffes and never seemed stumped by any of the topics that lawmakers asked her to address.

Ms. Black said she had spent several weeks preparing for the appearance, which came a week after Mr. Bloomberg testified here on Mr. Cuomo’s budget proposal.

She gave herself a positive review afterward. “I felt that they were fair,” she said of the lawmakers. “I thought their questions were substantive. They were responsive, and I think we did O.K.”

Lawmakers seemed satisfied with her testimony. “She gained some points,” said Assemblyman William Colton, a Democrat from Brooklyn, who was once a schoolteacher. “I don’t know that she has a great footing right now in terms of the material,” he added, “but I think she’s learning it, and I think she showed to me at least that she’s into this.”

Ms. Black’s appearance was not without some drama. The moment she sat down at the hearing table, two dozen demonstrators entered the hearing room, gathered behind her and chanted, “Governor Cuomo, don’t kill C.F.E.” That was a reference to the Campaign for Fiscal Equity court case, whose settlement mandated more money for city schools — funding that education groups said would essentially be wiped out by Mr. Cuomo’s budget proposal.

After three minutes, the demonstrators marched out, and Ms. Black proceeded with her remarks, which offered a sharp critique of Mr. Cuomo for the same issue that the protesters had raised.

“This is just unjust,” she said.

Like Mr. Bloomberg in his testimony before lawmakers last week, Ms. Black asked for relief from state mandates that she said would “accelerate an already daunting situation” on schools’ finances. In 20 minutes of prepared testimony, she also argued for changes to teacher seniority rules that would give the city more flexibility if layoffs were necessary, and to the pension system for school employees.

“What we are urging you to do is to provide our students with their fair share of state aid, and our city with the tools and reforms needed to end unnecessary mandates and crippling policies,” she said.

In the question-and-answer session that followed, lawmakers were considerably rougher with Ms. Black than they had been with the mayor, challenging her on topics including teacher seniority and school closings.

But Ms. Black seemed to take special care to be diplomatic in her responses, and there were no tense moments in the nearly 90 minutes she took questions. But she did sometimes defer to Dennis M. Walcott, the deputy mayor for education and community development, who was seated next to her and seemed ready to step in if any lawmaker got particularly aggressive.

The hearing, which included testimony from school officials, labor unions and nonprofit organizations from around the state, was the longest of the budget season, lasting more than eight hours.

Each official brought a set of warnings for the lawmakers. The commissioner of the State Education Department, David M. Steiner, said Mr. Cuomo’s proposed budget could force the elimination of some Regents examinations. Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of New York made the case for greater parental choice in selecting schools.

In what aides to the governor described as an effort to show his seriousness about the need for schools to accept the reductions in financing, Mr. Cuomo sent Lt. Gov. Robert J. Duffy to the hearing to defend the budget and argue that schools can blunt its impact by cutting the cost of their own bureaucracy.

Mr. Duffy announced that Mr. Cuomo planned to make available “waste reduction teams” to visit school districts and recommend budget cuts if the districts themselves say they are unable to find ways to save money.

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Perley J. Thibodeau February 15, 2011 · 5:12 pm

Of course she echoed Bloomberg.
That’s just what he appointed her to do..

Black is an embarrassment, and it makes me sick that she represents NYC schools in Albany. The next mayor better be a Democrat. Come on all you lazy folks, get out and vote so that we don’t end up with another autocrat like Bloomberg who appoints an unqualified mess like Black.

Considering that the Times is “the paper of record” and being on-line permits more information to be posted that the print edition, this peice is woefully inadequate. Before which committees did she appear? Who were the legislators? Which legislators sit on the committees? who were absent? Where is the transcript of her testimony and the from the question and answer portion? The public is constantly told that Albany is dysfunctional and bad legislators are always re-elected, yet how can the public make informed choices when the press gives us such paltry reporting?

I have yet to hear an original thought from this ‘educational leader.’

Everything that she has said since being appointed has been identical to the Joel Klein/Bloomberg prior public positions. Is it because she has no first hand knowledge of public education in NYC ? Is it because she has never taught or supervised teachers? Is it because she has never run a school, much less a school district ? Is it because she has largely avoided any contact with the NYC school system until two months ago?

Sorry, but I see ZERO added value from Black.

Why did she need Walcott sitting next to her to tell her how to answer some of the questions?

“she did on occasion defer to Dennis M. Walcott, the deputy mayor for education and community development, on some of the more arcane policy questions that lawmakers posed”!!!!

In other words, on ANYTHING outside her test-prep session!

How about getting a Chancellor who can answer questions based on what he/she HIMSELF/HERSELF actually KNOWS and not “several weeks” of cramming???

PEP members are puppets for the mayor; now chancellor Black is a puppet for the mayor, too.

It’s very sad that the mayor runs a puppet show instead of allowing the educrats to be true leaders.

It is mayoral control that’s truly out of control.

I guess we have a ‘buddy system’ the so called chancellor and her shadow. She has been prepping for several weeks. good for her!

what about the real teachers? you know, the ones who study four years, taking many education courses, then do student teaching, study for a masters degree and beyond. before they begin to teach, and if they are smart, they continue to learn on the job, with the help and advice of experienced teachers. Yes, experience and real preparation do count. this appointed chancellor has no idea what she’s doing. she should be ashamed to have accepted a job for which she is not qualified.

Hmm Cuomo is looking to send down teams to shrink the bloated bureaucracy–hmm–I wonder how the Legions of newly hired Principals will make out since they have grown from 1100 to over 1600 with plans to go over 2000 to run small schools when prviously a building had only 1 leader not 4-5-6 now.. I guess at $150,000 a piece that some money could be saved there, and Tweed staff has doubled it high priced (over $150,000/yr-not including bonuses) talent pool–just saying

Judith Grayson, nyc February 17, 2011 · 3:11 am

outside of the corporate world, corporateers are inadequate. generally speaking, their qualifications for anything includes lying, scheming, eliminating workers and lunch.
reality never intrudes.
ms. black thinks she’s wonderful and that everyone else will think so, too.
despite the fact that she has no experience or knowledge and needs someone else to supply her with a response to legislators, she is compelled to kiss her own hand.
indeed, lack of knowledge and doing nothing productive, being connected to someone powerful increases the corporateers already bloated self-regard.
one thing ms. black does know. she’s protected, being a member of mr. bloomberg’s crew.